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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 May 2009, 13:17

Thank you very much for your help Holger and Kees. :D

Other 3 images from Ebay:
First photo: the nose of the truck located behind is an Opel Blitz but the other...?? perhaps other Opel Blitz ??
Second and third images: I assume that they are US origin trucks captured by the Germans in France. Perhaps Studebaker??

Thanks in advance. Sturm78.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by barbarossa28 » 01 May 2009, 13:21

Hello Sturm,

first one is indeed an opel Blitz 3,6-36 3ton lorry.

Second and third are formerly French Army White 704 S.

Regards, Holger.


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Post by SIS 5 » 01 May 2009, 15:53

Hi Holger,

thank You very, very much for all the informations to the Borgward trucks, and of all sources in comparison I´m using. I´m awfully sorry that I was wrong and made such a mistake. I had confidence in Gerhardt, more than in Oswald (not complete) or Frank, in which book are also several wrong destinations. It´s really good that You are such an excellent expert on all vehicles of the Wehrmacht and that You can correct if necessary. It´s really a pity that there is no book about Hansa-Lloyd and Borgward vehicles.

So long

Bert

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by protze » 02 May 2009, 08:31

Hi all,

Who knows the identity of this "railwaytruck"?
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Post by peeved » 02 May 2009, 09:09

Hi Protze,
Last time around at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... a#p1244264 the general agreement was that the railroader was Hungarian. Possibly it's a Raba-Krupp L 3.6 H development; but nothing definite was discovered as to the model that time.
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Post by Leo Niehorster » 02 May 2009, 11:11

Going by the cab, hood, and radiator it looks like a 2-ton Praga RV. Unfortunately, the (very poor quality) picture — from the same angle — I have shows a 6x4 vehicle, with the steering wheel on the right. As the numbers on the license plate are correct, it is not a reversed photograph. The license plate also indicates that it is a pre-war photograph, as it does not have the type identification and national symbol on it. Maybe someone knows of a 4x4 model?

[I have converted my PC to all ASA and no longer have a SCSI host adapter installed, so I cannot presently use my SCSI scanner.]

Cheers
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Post by Sturm78 » 02 May 2009, 20:14

Hi all,

I found this images on Ebay belonging to an Photo-album of a german bridge-building Pionier unit.
Could someone help me identify the trucks?

First photo: I think perhaps Mercedes Benz L4500
Second photo: Krupp truck but ??. pehaps Krupp L 4 M 262, LD 4 M 232 ??
Third photo: ?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 02 May 2009, 20:18

...and three other photos from the same album:

First photo: Büssing-Nag... but 501 or 550 or...??
Second photo: Büssing-Nag 501 or ...??
Third photo: from left to right: Mercedes Benz L3000 perhaps, Opel Blitz and two Büssing-Nag ??


Regards Sturm78.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by protze » 03 May 2009, 07:01

Hi Markus and Leo,

Thanks for your answers!

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Post by protze » 03 May 2009, 13:22

Hi all,

Who knows the identity of this tanker. Maybe a Renault VT6 or ZF6 ?
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Post by Leo Niehorster » 03 May 2009, 19:22

protze

Apparently the photograph of the Praga RV I have is the same as at
Tanks in World War II
although mine is a lot worse. The license plate is probably a Czech one.

According the Praga Site, http://www.praga.cz/EN/vismo/dokumenty2 ... 61&p1=1011 only the 6x4 was produced. Sorry, back to square one.

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Post by SIS 5 » 03 May 2009, 20:41

Hi Leo, hi Protze,

thank You for this information. Leo, I think like You that it could be a Czech one. My assumption: either Wikov or Walter, the two firms we know not very much about.

Regards

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Post by SIS 5 » 03 May 2009, 21:16

Hi Sturm 78,

to Your first pic with the Mercedes Benz truck. It´s not a L 4500, but the heavier L 65oo. I´ll post a pic of that truck. It´s the dump truck version, but taken from the same side (source: Mercedes-Benz Lastwagen by Tim Cole).

Regards

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Post by peeved » 03 May 2009, 21:32

peeved wrote:Hi Protze,
Last time around at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... a#p1244264 the general agreement was that the railroader was Hungarian. Possibly it's a Raba-Krupp L 3.6 H development; but nothing definite was discovered as to the model that time.
Markus
The railway switcher (especially the closed cab) has some similarity to the lead lorry in Hungarian use at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... tt#p882521 .

Also could the switcher have a rather nicely built gas generator; the radiator area seems quite thick?

Markus

Edit: Waded through jpegs on a home computer. Found a Hungarian truck marked 1936 Raba of model unknown, smaller looking but with strong family resemblance to the switcher (especially the cab but also e.g. hood and fenders).
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 06 May 2009, 17:22

Hi Sturm 78,

sorry for the delay. I had much to do. Now I will try to give an answer to the two trucks You posted 02nd May after the Mercedes Benz. To the Krupp truck: The only difference between these trucks is the engine. I looked at two books about Krupp: Bernd Regenberg: "Das Lastwagenalbum Krupp" and Karl-Heinz Hesse: "Alle Lastwagen von Krupp". These sources refer, that the Diesel - version (LD 4 M 232) with a three-cylinder-engine was more and more sold than the Benzin - version (L 4 M 262) with a six-cylinder engine and that the diesel engine went to the normal engine in these trucks. You could get the Benzin-engine only by a special order, but it was more expensive. So we can assume that the posted truck is a LD 4 M 232 with the modern cab of Krupp out of the year 1938.
I´ll post a pic out of the book "Das Lastwagen-Album Krupp" by bernd Regenberg.

To the third truck: It must be a 3ton truck. On the door You can read the payload: 3000 kg. After comparing many similar 3ton trucks I think it must be a Hans-Lloyd, but it´s not so easy to ID the exact type. After all I think it could be the type Europa IV, but the military version (Wehrmacht - version) with the open cab. I´ll post a copy out of the book "Typenbilder der deutschen Lastkraftwagen".

Regards

Bert

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