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_das_reich
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by _das_reich » 25 Nov 2009, 00:53

Whilst not a rare vehicle, I just wanted to ask about the markings and armament on this Bren carrier.

This photo appears in the book:

Frontkämpfer - hart wie Stahl: Das Waffen-SS Regiment Deutschland 1934-1945

Apparently this photo was taken in 1940 during the Low Countries campaign and depicts members of the Waffen-SS "Deutschland" Regiment in a captured Bren Carrier.

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The front glacis plate has had a white Balkan cross painted on it, on the right fender, either a 'G' or '6' has been painted on. What would this signify?

Also, what kind of armament is this?

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

-Tristan

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Larrister » 25 Nov 2009, 03:35

The number could be "16" and beside it is the organizational symbol for a motorized infantry platoon.

Larry


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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by fireindi64 » 25 Nov 2009, 12:48

Bill Murray wrote:Hi Sturm:

Based on the arrangement of the cooling louvres in the hood/bonnet, the shape of the radiator guard and the type of wheels, I would agree with you that your personnel transport truck is a Benz L4500 S version.

Bill
Hello Bill

I think sturms pic is a MB L4500 A
Look at the man without a cap, between his legs. Oh no! a little bit deeper :wink: you see 2 screws with a short distance.
please compare it with this front axels

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 500_a.html

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 500_s.html

both MB are from Holgers site.

best regards

Henning

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by fireindi64 » 25 Nov 2009, 12:57

Sean N wrote:
fireindi64 wrote:"Gestelle für Kabelrollen"

Hi Henning,

= 'Racks for cable reels'


Sean
Thanks Sean

Yesterday i got only a few minutes for answering. It was very hectic at work

regards
Henning

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 26 Nov 2009, 13:53

Hi all,

More PKWs for Id.:

Image 1: I think Adler Typ 12 and BMW R11 or R4 motorcycle
Image 2: Wanderer W11 2.5L or Mercedes-Benz Typ260
Image 3: Wanderer W11 2.5L or Mercedes-Benz Typ260

Images from Ebay

Regards Sturm78
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Bill Murray » 26 Nov 2009, 16:38

Hi Tristan:

I am fairly sure the weapon on your Bren Carrier is a BOYS AT rifle.
Bill
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by barbarossa28 » 26 Nov 2009, 20:20

Hello Sturm78.

1: Adler type 12N-RW
2 & 3: Mercedes-Benz type Stutgart 260

Here's an overview of Kübelwagen on my site:

http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... wagen.html

Regards, Holger.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by peeved » 26 Nov 2009, 23:16

fireindi64 wrote:Hello,good morning

Can anybody help me identify that trailer?
Is it a real maintance trailer or a engineer trailer, for example for "Sturmboote"???

best regards
Henning
Hi Henning,

Re: your trailer question from 24.10. saw an eBay.de photo showing a trailer very similar to yours with a captured French plane aboard. Since the eBay photo was shot in France and your trailer had rather French wheels I suspect it was originally Armée de l'Air equipment.

Regards,
Markus
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Nov 2009, 13:45

Thank you very much, Holger. :D Your page is very helpful but there are times I doubt yet to identify some vehicles.

Various trucks from Ebay and warrelics.eu:

Image 1: VOMAG truck but, What model? Type 4, 5 or 6 LR?
Image 2: Henschel Typ33 or Krupp L3H63-163? Kfz.?? :?
Image 3: :?

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 27 Nov 2009, 17:46

Hi Sturm,

my thoughts to the trucks You posted:
pic 1: Vomag 6 LR
pic 2: Krupp L 3 H 63
pic 3: Faun L 4 (please compare with the pics on the site of Holger Erdmann: kfzderwehrmacht.de

Regards

Bert

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by garlock » 27 Nov 2009, 22:32

Hello all,
Is the vehicle towing the artillery piece a Chatillon-Panhard? Is the towing structure integral to the vehicle model, or is it added?

thanks,
John
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by carius » 29 Nov 2009, 11:27

Found interesting,but unknown for me vehicle!???
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Bill Murray » 29 Nov 2009, 15:24

Hi George:

Your Propaganda vehicle is a Ford. I have seen several photos of Ford BB busses with this type of grille over the years.
Also see the main headlamps which seem to come from the 1937 Passenger Car.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by carius » 29 Nov 2009, 15:50

Many thanks Bill! :D

Best regards
George

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Post by Sturm78 » 30 Nov 2009, 13:45

Hi all,

Bert, thank you very much for your answer. As the Faun L4 truck is difficult to confirm 100%.

Here, other 3 images for Id.:

Image 1: I think Ford BB perhaps
Image 2: DB, BN or Magirus?
Image 3: I think Mecedes-Benz G3a probably

Image from Ebay

Regards Sturm78
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