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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Maxschnauzer » 23 Oct 2019 09:05

G_Mendes wrote:
21 Oct 2019 23:52
Hello Sirs,
Please could you help on getting some information about these fuel trucks.
They look are based in a Ford chassis, but with a two axles in rear wheels. I tought that the chassis were could originally be made in the dutch Ford Factory, could be with sussex type wheelbases, or made with imported chassis from England and with a local (german? belgiun? french?) cab an tanker body.

While the tanker bodies are different, the windshield and cab are the same. the engine radiator cover is different, one it looks to have a 1937 Ford BB V8 truck type (despite being covered), and the other the normal Ford V3000 engine and radiator cover, a hint to one-off purpose built vehicles...

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source: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... v8_51.html

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source: https://reibert.info/threads/jg54-zelen ... ost-707438

same photo with a legend in russian:
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source: https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/259 ... я-техника/

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G_Mendes
Olá,

:welcome: Interesting post. I have nothing further to add except thanks for the V3000 tanker pic, although to me it doesn't look like a Kfz. 384 (or as the caption says Sd. Kfz. 384). The cabs look Dutch to me, the Belgians seemed to go more with an Art Deco look, but I'm just guessing about that as I'm not an expert in BENELUX cabs.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 23 Oct 2019 17:12

Hi uncle,

after searching a while I think I can ID the truck on the pic You posted. It could be a Steyr type XVII for 3 tons. On 19th Febr. 1938 the Austrian army had only six trucks of this type. Here a pic of this truck out of the book "Die Räderfahrzeuge des österreichischen Bundesheeres 1918 - 1988" by Rolf M. Urrisk.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by uncle » 23 Oct 2019 18:49

Hallo Bert.
Many thanks!

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Oct 2019 21:30

Bert wrote
You are right. It cannot be the type L 5000. I would say it could be the type Lo 2750. Here a pic of such a truck. It is a pity that the quality of this pic is not better, because there are two interesting details about the weight on the door:
weight of the vehicle: more than 4000 kg
payload: more than 2500 kg
Hello, Bert

Sorry for my last answer....Well, It is possible that you are right but...I think the front fenders not match with Lo2750...
In any case a very rare Mercedes-Benz truck with the stadard military cab ...

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by ArmchairSamurai » 26 Oct 2019 04:02

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Mystery Japanese tractor found in Luzon.

Origin: http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/4009 ... &__lang=en

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by SIS 5 » 31 Oct 2019 19:05

Hi Sturm 78,

thank You very much for Your reply. You are right. It cannot be the type Lo 2750. Then I would say it is the type L 3000. Here two pics out of the Autotypenbuch. Typentafeln der deutschen Kraftfahrzeugindustrie 1937 and 1938.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Jose85 » 02 Nov 2019 09:33

Hi,
this strange truck? Wheels look like an early Opel Blitz.Thanks!
Photo from eBay.de
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Post by von thoma » 04 Nov 2019 07:18

What kind of tube launcher/JATO is that ? :P
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Post by ayovtshev » 04 Nov 2019 19:56

von thoma,

that's a car cooler- one of the predeccessors of car air conditioning.

It used cooling by evaporation of water contained within the device.
And gave way to the refrigerative airconditioning systems, that we still use today,

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by ilfil » 04 Nov 2019 22:42

Well, I have to admit I'm absolutely helpless here, any suggestions?

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 04 Nov 2019 22:44

Hi Angel and von Thoma,

That surely beats the "455" Air Conditioner I had back in the sixties: Open 4 windows and go 55 miles per hour. :D
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 04 Nov 2019 22:49

ilfil wrote:
04 Nov 2019 22:42
Well, I have to admit I'm absolutely helpless here, any suggestions?

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TIA!
Hi ilfil,
Is it not a '38 Oldsmobile? I don't know the origin of the cab.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by ilfil » 05 Nov 2019 10:03

Hi Max,
Yep, they are 38 Oldsmobiles indeed, thanks for that.
I also have no idea what the cabs could be. They are too good-looking to be of Benelux origin, probably Scandinavian?
"...and on the 8th day He made truck so that man, made on 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night."

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by RandJS » 05 Nov 2019 12:55

Hi All,

Sorry for late reply.

von thoma wrote
What kind of tube launcher/JATO is that ?
A few years ago, I ran into such a unit at a small car show. The owner was no where to be found. It took a little research and contacting all my auto experts, but finally it was identified. They called it a "Swamp Cooler". Not sure where that name originated. Angel's description is correct.

And Max--yes, my '65 New Yorker had wonderful 455 air conditioning.

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

Post by Frankfurter » 09 Nov 2019 21:18

the Rocketman wrote:
18 May 2019 19:10
Would like to have a indentification on these pictures,
I do think that they are of Italian origin.

Bert
To answer your question from may (page 709): the upper one of your three Italian luxury cars I would say is an Isotta-Fraschini 8A from ca. 1926-28. The lower two are Lancia Dilambda Berlinas, early series I (from 1929-1931).

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