Vehicle identity requests

[VRIL7]

Can't see front driving axle, looks normal T 27b 4x2.
BTW, there is no mention of T27 4x4 variant in all CZ sources in which not only serial trucks but also all prototypes are listed.

Thanks ilfil,
You seem to be right, in the center of the front hub, only four fastening bolts are visible, and this is a sign of a non-driving wheel in Tatra trucks.

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[ilfil]

Here are all variants of T27 and there is no 4x4 in the list:



Taken from the full table of all Tatra vehicle types production from the beginning in 1898 and till 2000, prototypes incl.

[VRIL7]

Thanks ilfil,
Do you have a list of all Tatra prototypes with all-wheel drive up to 1945?

[ilfil]

Prototypes only or serial produced trucks too?

[VRIL7]

Prototypes only or serial produced trucks too?

Prototypes only. I know about serials.

[ilfil]

Not very much of them, enjoy anyway:

V750 (1936-37)
V799 (1938)
V809 (1939-41)

[VRIL7]

Not very much of them, enjoy anyway:

V750 (1936-37)
V799 (1938)
V809 (1939-41)

Thanks, nothing new to me. Here you can also add Tatra 84 (1935).

Do you have something about the 1938 Jawa 4x4 (1500 cc) prototype?
I mean good quality photographs or scans and technical information. I would really appreciate it.

[ilfil]

You wanted the prototypes only, you've had them. If follow the rule "less than 5 vehicles produced" not only T84 but almost the half of the list must be included. This in general, not for all-drive axles Tatras.

[VRIL7]

Okay, thanks, they are all known to me. I thought there was existed some kind of prototype unknown to me.
What about the Jawa 4x4 (1938)?

[VRIL7]

If follow the rule "less than 5 vehicles produced" not only T84 but almost the half of the list must be included.

For instance?

This in general, not for all-drive axles Tatras.

What do you mean? Tatra T84 had four-wheel drive - 6x6. Three prototypes were produced.

What about the Jawa 4x4 (1938)?

[ilfil]

For instance?

Sd Kfz 234/1. Items produced: 1 (say: one).

[VRIL7]

For instance?

Sd Kfz 234/1. Items produced: 1 (say: one).

I meant to give an example of small-scale all-wheel drive Tatras.
And keep in mind that prototypes were not produced in a single copy - at least two for testing.

How can you identify this Tatra model? Signed as - "V 809", but the bonnet is clearly different from the V 809.

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[ilfil]

I meant to give an example of small-scale all-wheel drive Tatras.

It wouldn't be bad for you to specify what exactly you mean.

And keep in mind that prototypes were not produced in a single copy - at least two for testing.

Well, apparently you know better and are deep into the picture of Czech automotive industry. So as a true ignorant I'll stay silent from now on, I have other more intersting things to do anyway than to guess what you may have had in mind.

How can you identify this Tatra model? Signed as - "V 809", but the bonnet is clearly different from the V 809.
Tatra V 809, 4x4 Tropenwagen.png

Didn't this "Tropenwagen" say you something? No more comments. Ask elsewhere, I'd better quit.

[ArmchairSamurai]

Strange kubelwagen with hardtop, probably post-war modification. What do you all think?

[ilfil]

Exactly as it was with the Jeeps and Beeps, the Kübel was popular base for many postwar conversions, not necessary in Germany only.





Cheers!