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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by SIS 5 » 07 Jan 2022, 01:10

Hi,

here a pic of a car I cannot ID. Maybe one of You can help me. Thanks in advance!

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Bert
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Sterrettzz » 12 Jan 2022, 23:42

Hello, long time reader first time poster. Apologies for this being from the back. These vehicles are from the 9. SS Panzer Division during the Battle of Arnhem, Operation Market Garden September 1944. Unsure of what day specifically. Hope you guys can identify what they are :)
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 13 Jan 2022, 06:55

Hi Sterrettzz,
:welcome: They are the Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen,_Sd.Kfz.161/3
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Smaragd123 » 13 Jan 2022, 14:07

Hi everybody,
I recently found a photo of a Panzer I variant which is unknown. There are no information on the vehicle itself and only 4 photos which I have all collected here. All of them reveal a different aspect and give information about the vehicle.

Photo A: Image
Photo B: Image
Photo C: Image
Photo D: Image

Photo description revealed nothing.

These are the facts that I got from the photos:
Photo A:
- German Tanker in the front in white uniform -> maybe training school (Pre War, maybe 1939)
Photo B:
- Radio equipment with antenna -> command vehicle? (Pre War, maybe 1939)
Photo C:
- The tank together with other Befehlswagen Sdkfz. 265 (maybe France 1940)
Photo D:
- Scrapped for parts, probably not destroyed in combat. The letter H shows that it was part of the artillery branch which makes sense as befehlswagen were later used as artillery reconaissance

There are atleast two vehicles as Photo A shows an Ausf. A chassis and photo D an Ausf. B chassis

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Post by arminfreitag » 14 Jan 2022, 00:38

Hi Smaragd123
intersting early trial version (?) of a Funk or PzBefWg. As you mentioned
I also couldn't find any information of it. But I have some more pictures
both of Ausf A and B. I will attach them in 2 posts. Hope you like them.

Best regards
Armin
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Post by arminfreitag » 14 Jan 2022, 00:40

Here some more. Sorry but quality is not so good.
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Smaragd123 » 14 Jan 2022, 10:38

Thanks very much Armin.
I love them! I searched for days for new photos but could only find these. Those defiently help with telling their story. I will try to analize them. I really like the first one with the checkboard pattern which would reveal that it already existed before 1937. Also that there were more than two vehicles with different antennas. Also some seem to have side visors and some not.

Best regards Smaragd

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Post by Smaragd123 » 14 Jan 2022, 17:37

Hi Armin,
Do you also happen to know more about this Panzer I variant? It looks very similar but not the same.
Best Regards Smaragd123
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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jan 2022, 23:02

Hi Smaragd123
Pz I without turrets were used in many different forms as Fahrschulpanzer for driver's training,
Instandsetzungskraftwagen for repairs and maintanance, Pionierpanzer for transportation of engineer's equipment,
Munitionspanzer for supplying ammunition, fuel or anything else and as tractors.
It is very difficult to distinguish the different roles and to find information on most of them. The one you posted
could be any of these. I think it is just an open Wanne with frames for a canopy. There are others with different kinds
of closed superstructures as well. I have many pictures of different kinds of superstructures or canopies of which I will post
some examples in the next few posts.
But first 3 more pictures of the vehicle you posted first.

Regards
Armin
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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jan 2022, 23:11

Hi Smaragd123
here the first 5 pictures of the above mentioned vehicles.
Have a look in the Photo Threads section you can find more rare versions of the Pz I in a thread called Rarities.

Regards
Armin
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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jan 2022, 23:14

Here some more.
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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jan 2022, 23:17

Some more interesting vehicles.
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Post by arminfreitag » 16 Jan 2022, 23:22

The last post for now including a Pionierpz I of 14th PzDiv.

Regards
Armin
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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by Smaragd123 » 17 Jan 2022, 01:18

Hi Armin,
Thanks for the help and these awesome photos. We dont know anything about the Panzer Is without superstructure but with frames? There seem to be quite a lot of them.
Best regards Smaragd123

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Re: Vehicle identity requests

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Post by fliegerhorst » 20 Jan 2022, 01:09

Hi everyone. Bert helped point me in the direction of Mercedes is anyone able known which model of the side? Thank you in advance for your time.
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