Vehicle identity requests

[SIS 5]

Hi Holger, hi Bill,

thank You for Your information. After reading Your posts I compared the vehicles of the posted pic with the pic of the book "Mercedes Benz Lastwagen und Omnibusse" by Werner Oswald. After all I think now, that the vehicle with the simple wheel arrangement is a 1500 E and the vehicle with the dual wheel arrangement is a L 1100 E type. Please, compare these vehicles, if You possess this book. I´ve only bad copies out of it.

Regards

Bert

[protze]

Hi Sander,

Thanks for your information about the Victory Museum. I am glad to see that in the owners of the new museum in the States also exposed the MB L1500S.

[protze]

Hi all,

Here a Magirus Deutz truck. I am looking for the identity of the truck and of the anthracite gasgenerator.

[Bill Murray]

As a guess, Protze, I would suggest it is an Imbert apparatus.

I cannot prove it just yet, but Imbert was the largest producer of such apparatus in Germany in the war period and the canister looks like a typical Imbert piece.

Bill

[protze]

Hi Bill,

Imbert was the largest producer of wood-, peat and charcoalgasgenerators in WWII. His factory stood in Köln next to the Ford factory. So Imbert delivered a lot of his generators direct to the assembly lines of Ford. For Ford he was the first supplier of gasgenerators (gasifiers). Also Imbert was a large supplier of wood-, peat- and charcoalgasgenerators for the after market. Particularly for the public transportsector in the Netherlands and the Wehrmacht. But Klöckner Humboldt Deutz has made a anthracite gasgenerator for 6,5 tons trucks. For the relative large engines in such a heavy trucks woodgasgenerators could not deliver the right amount of gas. But anthracitegenerators could do this very well. The most well known producers of anthracite gasgenerators are for example the French companies Gohin-Poulenc and Bellay and the German companies as Wisco, Henschel-Finkbeiner and Mercedes Benz (they had a license of Bellay). On the image you see a Magirus Deutz, probably 6,5 tons truck (type?) with, I am not sure, a KHD gasgenerator. Even in your country they were experimenting in WWII with gasgenerators. For example the Forest Products Laboratory in Madison (Wisconsin) with sawdust gasgenerators.

[stoveb]

Hi guys,

I recently bought this image of an LSSAH vehicle during the parade in Paris on 29-7-1942. It is a s.gl. Einheits Pkw, but of which Kfz number? It may be a Kfz 23, but it seems to be lacking the third door behind the rear wheel. Maybe some sort of field mod by the unit?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers
Steve

[SIS 5]

Hi Protze, hi Bill,

sorry for the delay, but yesterday I had not time and today I had some problems with the net.

To the Magirus truck. It´s a L 265 or M 265 HG for 6,5 tons. The anthracite generator, as You wrote, is from Deutz.
(sources: Bernd Regenberg: Das Lastwagen-Album Magirus and Wolfgang Gebhardt: Taschenbuch Deutscher LKW-Bau).

Regards

Bert

[protze]

Bert,

Thanks for your informations of the for me unknown Magirus truck and generator.

[Sander D]

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Hi Steve

Hi guys,

I recently bought this image of an LSSAH vehicle during the parade in Paris on 29-7-1942. It is a s.gl. Einheits Pkw, but of which Kfz number? It may be a Kfz 23, but it seems to be lacking the third door behind the rear wheel. Maybe some sort of field mod by the unit?

It's hard to tell if there is a third door,where are the other 2 doors ????? of this schwerer einheids-pkw.

Looking at the picture i would say i has no third door,i would say it's a kfz.23 TYPE 40 accourding to http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/sepkw.htm



Cheers

Sander

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[stoveb]

Hi Sander,

Thanks for showing me that photo, I can't believe I missed it on oldtimers!

I think it is not a Typ 40 though, as the spare wheel is exposed, whereas on the '40' the spare is inside the body work. But, as you say, it is also too short to have the third door behind the rear wheel, so it is not a 'standard' Kfz 23.

The bicycle wheel 'things' on the back are 100% on my photo, does anyone know their purpose? Has anyone seen this arrangment of double racks of cable in the middle fo the vehicle before?

Cheers
Steve

[Sander D]

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steve wrote.

Thanks for showing me that photo, I can't believe I missed it on oldtimers!

I think it is not a Typ 40 though, as the spare wheel is exposed, whereas on the '40' the spare is inside the body work. But, as you say, it is also too short to have the third door behind the rear wheel, so it is not a 'standard' Kfz 23.

The bicycle wheel 'things' on the back are 100% on my photo, does anyone know their purpose? Has anyone seen this arrangment of double racks of cable in the middle fo the vehicle before?

I think it's one of these things.
A weeled carrier for laying the cabels , 2 soldier could towed it and then the cabels where roled of.
I do not know the name of this carriage.



I also found this picture on my hard drive.




Never seen dubble rack configuration.

Regards

Sander

[stoveb]

HI Sander,

Excellent!!! Thanks for showing me the 'cable trolley' photo, it makes sense now! Maybe the double row of cables was a unit modification after all.

Thanks again for your efforts.

Cheers
Steve

[scotisle]

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These are a series of photos (there are others, including American infantry moving past a Panther tank in the bocage) taken by International World News photographer Frederick Ramage.

Here's some others, not as high quality
http://www.dickstodghill.com/Attack%20t ... _Small.jpg
http://www.dickstodghill.com/Cows%20for ... _Small.jpg
http://www.dickstodghill.com/Pix%20-%20 ... ghts-1.bmp

Some identity questions: I think the attached photos were taken in Periers. The Dick Stoghill photos are listed as being taken there as well. Anyone know for certain?

Anybody know anything about the Panther in these photos? Is it the same Panther in this photo?
http://www.worldwar2database.com/photos/wwii138.jpg

The cracked Zimmerit certainly look similar; however in the Fred Ramage photos, it's missing a track.

Any light on this story would be helpful. Thanks so much!

Thanks
Scotisle

[Bill 13]

Good Day
First of Three requests for vehicle ID.
I don't think they have been queried before but it is getting hard to keep track so apologies if they have..
Questioning ID of the vehicle on the right.
Thanks Bill
:roll:

[Bill 13]

Good Day
Second of Three requests for vehicle ID.
I don't think they have been queried before but it is getting hard to keep track so apologies if they have..
Thanks Bill
:roll: