Vehicle identity requests

[riffraff]

Markus,
Thanks for your reply (re: Elrkönig). The link to the other discussion was interesting. I still think this is a different car from the Kfz 2-4 series. I think the small car in the original photo is a very small 2-door car whereas the Kfz 2-4 series are designed to be 4-doors with variosu doors omitted due to configurations (communications, etc).

Certainly the one Stöwer shown with the cut down fenders is getting closer but I still think it's a much larger vehicle.

Does anyone know how the Wehrmacht assigned it's license plates? It might be possible to determine the timeframe of the car in my original post.

[Befehl227]

Today's catch...









1. Wanderer?

2. Hanomag 4/20?

3. ???

4. GAZ AA?

[Bill Murray]

Befehl:

The third one is a Ford Eifel (German).

I believe you have the rest more or less correct, at least according to the makers name.
Bill

[Befehl227]

Befehl:

The third one is a Ford Eifel (German).

I believe you have the rest more or less correct, at least according to the makers name.
Bill

Bill, thank you very much!

Do you know what type the Wanderer could be?

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I found these images on Ebay and I need your help to Id. correctly:

Image 1 : truck with gas generator.
Image 2 and 3 : Mercedes-Benz Luftwaffe bus but I do not the model.

Thanks in advance. Sturm78

[Bill Murray]

Hi Sturm:

I am just running to my shop, so quickly, the Wanderer should be a W23 and the gas producer truck is I believe a British Bedford either 3 or 5 tonner from 1938-1940 made for export, probably Holland.

[SIS 5]

Hi Bill, hi Sturm,

You know I´m no specialist in cars. But I´ve found a pic of a Wanderer type W 24, very similar to the car on the posted pic. Source: Walter Oswald: Deutsche Autos 1920 - 1945.

Regards

Bert

[Befehl227]

Hi Bill, hi Sturm,

You know I´m no specialist in cars. But I´ve found a pic of a Wanderer type W 24, very similar to the car on the posted pic. Source: Walter Oswald: Deutsche Autos 1920 - 1945.

Regards

Bert

Bert, the Wanderer W24 (Viertürer) was also my first guess, but I wasn't sure, because I couldn't find better pics (of that type) on the net.

/Stefan

[Sean N]

Hi Sturm,

I think Bill has it right on your producer gas truck; it's definitely a 28 hp Bedford, and looks to me like a long bonnet version with twin wheels which would make it the 2 - 3 ton M type - MS, I think, as it looks short wheelbase. The wings, cab, bonnet side panels etc are not standard which probably means it was supplied as a chassis and cowl (MSZ) with the cab and body built locally.

Sean

[Bill Murray]

Hi Sean, Bert and Stefan:

As always with not too great photos, the devil is in the details.

The Wander W23 and W24 seem to differ mostly from a visual point of view in the length of the wheelbase and some fairly minor details.

The Bedford, I am willing to definitely call an "M" and whether it is an MS (short) or ML (long) wheelbase truck I cannot really tell. For sure, as Sean points out, it started out as a chassis without much else as all the rest of the vehicle is not to Bedford specifications.

Bill

[Sean N]

Hi Sean, Bert and Stefan:

As always with not too great photos, the devil is in the details.

Bill

Absolutely!

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Thank you for your help for Id. Bedford truck with gas generator, Bill and Sean. Have anyone any ideas for the Mercedes-Benz bus?

Henning, about your trailer question on 08 Jul 2009

Hello
I find that interessting pic.

What kind of trailer is it?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-LKW-Fahrzeug-Te ... 7C294%3A50

regards
Henning

I think more in a Sd.Ah. 469. The Sd.Ah. 469 had three windows and Sd.Ah. 468 had four windows according to "German Military Trailers and Towed Equipment" of Horst Beiersdorf.Image from Ebay


Regards Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hin Sturm 78,

after searching in the book "Mercedes Benz Lastwagen und Omnibusse 1896 - 1986" by Werner Oswald I think it must be the type O 4000, built from 1934 to 1938, only 132 were built. I´ve found a pic of an elder model from 1935 with another body, I will post it.

Regards

Bert

[Sturm78]

Hi Bert, thank you very much for your help.

Sturm78

[SIS 5]

Hi all,

can anybody of You ID the trucks in front of the pic in spite of the distance.
Thanks in advance.

Bert