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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by tigre » 27 Nov 2015 15:23

Hello to all :D; a little complement in pictures......................

Sd.Kfz. 251/6 mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen.

Source: in the pictures.

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by pietvanhees » 27 Nov 2015 19:55

Yes, it's real. The exact date's and details of the re-numbering can be found here: http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/251-renumbering.htm

My (vintage) website stil uses frames.

If you want to read the whole document on version numbers start at http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/ and chose versions in the menu on the left.
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by tigre » 27 Nov 2015 22:27

Thank you very much for shedding light on this Piet :thumbsup:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 28 Nov 2015 10:55

Piet, do you have any idea when this renumbering came to light, all my poor "old" books are now out of date because of it !
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by peeved » 28 Nov 2015 12:42

Anyone have access to the various Gerätliste editions: E.g. D 97 from 1.3.1942 and D 97/1+ from 15.11.1942 and 1.7.1943? According to "Waffen-Revue Nr. 87" in the 12.4.1945 data of Gerätliste, D 97/1+, Sd Kfz 251/3 is listed as mittlerer Funkpanzerwagen (Sd Kfz 251/3) /m FuPzWg and 251/4 mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen (J G) [sic] (Sd Kfz 251/4) / m SchPzWg (JG) so at least these designations remained more or less the same post-'43.

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by tigre » 28 Nov 2015 16:31

Hello to all :D; a little more....................

Sd.Kfz. Mittlere 251/6 Kommandopanzerwagen!

Source: Original, Photo, Pz.Rgt.31, Kommandopanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.251 / 6, Hamar, Norwegen, 1943.

Cheers. Raul M 8-).
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by pietvanhees » 28 Nov 2015 18:41

Somewhere 2008. I was much more active in 251-land than. One observing reader noticed the strange situation. Together we narrowed it down to january 1943. What information gets down the line of command at what point is always difficult. What commanders write in their strenght reports is often mixed.
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 28 Nov 2015 21:21

Thanks Piet.
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by tigre » 07 Oct 2020 02:17

Hello to all :D; the description of the source leaves me doubts....................

Mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen or not?

Source: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Panzer-Stu ... Swd1teAMya

Any ideas about the radio equipment on the vehicle? Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 07 Oct 2020 11:38

I am becoming very confused by this thread, was the main difference between the 251/3 and the 251/6 not just that the later had an Enigma Machine ?

If that really was the difference then this last photo can't be a 251/6 because the man facing the camera would be where it was located.

Then again I could, as I've said, just be completely confused by the thread.
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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by tigre » 07 Oct 2020 12:29

Hello Alan :D; glad to hear you.....basically, no one can speak about Sd Kfz 251/3 Mittlerer Funkpanzerwagen before 1943 because it did not exist..........and after 1943 (AFAIK) the Sd. Kfz 251/3 had the stern (star) type antenna instead of the frame type atop the vehicle......still trying to figure the difference in radio/signal equipment between both of them. Ok just a little riddle. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by SIS 5 » 13 Oct 2020 07:56

Hi Raúl,

are You sure, that the Sd.Kfz. 251/3 mittlerer Funkpanzerwagen didn´t exist before 1943?

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by pietvanhees » 13 Oct 2020 08:21

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by SIS 5 » 14 Oct 2020 15:31

Hi Piet,

thank You very much for this correction. So some of the German sources are wrong.

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Re: Sdkfz 251/6

Post by pietvanhees » 14 Oct 2020 19:22

Well, wrong is a big word. Translations, simplifications, a wrongly copied list. it's al interpretation. These guys writing the reports where doing that in another world, long gone. 100% sure is a luxury when your fighting a war.
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