Unit marking on Pz 38(t)

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Unit marking on Pz 38(t)

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Post by Erik E » 20 Sep 2002, 23:39

Hello!
I need help identifying this unit marking. It looks like the early 4th Panzer division, but I`m not sure!
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Post by Aufklarung » 21 Sep 2002, 02:20

12 PD I think.

Below is Pz IV E Barbarossa 19 July '41.

I think rhomboid plate says '32'.

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symbol..

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Post by Christoph Awender » 21 Sep 2002, 05:46

HI Erik!

Aufklärung is right.... 12.Pz.Div.


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Post by Aufklarung » 21 Sep 2002, 14:28

Erik
Did you also find this 38t in the countryside of your beautiful nation? Lots of stuff laying around up there by the sounds of it. Perhaps I could open a scrap metal business in Norway! :lol:
How much of this vehicle remains and in what condition? I'm guessing it was a turret and bunker combination. Strange as 12 Pz Div was predominantly on the East front. Use of surplus bits, I guess.

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Post by Erik E » 21 Sep 2002, 20:03

Well, this turret has been a victim of some post-war shooting exersises, so there is a big hole in it....... I am currently counting the Pz 38 turrets around here, and I have 14 now (found 2 "new" yesterday!) Most of them are only missing the barrel!
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Post by Erik E » 21 Sep 2002, 20:09

Forgot to say thanks for your help!
Just let me know if you want to see some other Pz38 Turrets/bunker combination!

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 21 Sep 2002, 20:13

I suppose everything is rusted shut?

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Post by Erik E » 21 Sep 2002, 20:28

Well, most of the parts are stuck, but on a few you can turn the periscope, and one of the turrets can still be turned 360 degrees!

This one is also interesting (note the iron cross on the back)
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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 21 Sep 2002, 20:32

That one is quite amazing, you can even see the grey paint on it! Looks like it has a whitewash on it too!

It's very nice that there's no grafitti on them!

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Post by Johan Elisson » 21 Sep 2002, 20:40

Cool! Why were they placed? Was it a stationary defence inlands or at the coast?

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Post by Erik E » 21 Sep 2002, 20:47

Was it a stationary defence inlands or at the coast
They are a part of the "Landfront" defences south of Sola airport in southern Norway. The "landfront is some 20 Km long, and has a lot of Heavy PAK bunkers,anti-tank walls and ditches, tank turrets and loads of bunkers. As we speak I have 2 visitors from Interfest and Dawa, which are "bunker study groups" in Germany. We completed the Landfront today, and I have taken some 250 photos!

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Post by Johan Elisson » 21 Sep 2002, 22:28

Interresting! I've just read the book Den nionde april (The ninth of April) by the Swedish writers Michael Tamelander and Niklas Zetterling, a very good book that handles the invasion of Norway. It says that Sola was a very importand airport because of its strategic location, far west. Disturbingly near Scapa Flow, the Englishmen thought. Was it from Sola that some German aircraft operated during the Battle of Britain? Were the Landfront defences placed to protect the airport?

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Post by Erik E » 28 Sep 2002, 14:31

Hello!
Sorry for late answer, but I have been away for the northern batteries a couple of days!
All your suggestions are right Johan! Several missions from Sola to the Northern cities of GB was flown during the 1940. The units had heavy losses due to no fighter protection, so after 1940, these KG units were transferred to France. Sola airport was the only airport in western Norway with concrete runways, and capable of taking down large aircrafts.
Sola was also the first airport EVER to be taken by paratroopers........

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Post by Johan Elisson » 28 Sep 2002, 18:03

Ok! Thanks!

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Post by Aufklarung » 28 Sep 2002, 22:46

Erik E wrote: This one is also interesting (note the iron cross on the back)
Is it an Iron Cross or Baltic Cross? National Cross is the term I'm most familiar with.
Just asking.
A :)

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