Ostketten - Winterketten
Ostketten - Winterketten
Hi,
What is the difference between Ostketten and Winterketten? Could you show me some pictures, which make it obvious?
thx!
RB
What is the difference between Ostketten and Winterketten? Could you show me some pictures, which make it obvious?
thx!
RB
From a previous discussion:
Wolfkin wrote: Winterketten
Winterketten were developed in 1942 for use in winter conditions on the Eastern Front. These were basically a normal track with track extensions that protruded from the ends of the tracks. These are recognizable by the long triangular extensions. These were usually found on the PzKpfw III, PzKpfw IV and StuG III but could also be seen on Hummel, Hornisse and other vehicles.
Ostketten
Ostketten were developed in 1944 for use in the muddy conditions in the Spring and Autumn on the Eastern Front, the Rasputitsa. These were basically a wider track than the usual track which was fitted. There were no triangular extensions, just a wider track. These were for use usually on the PzKpfw IV and StuG III but could also be found on other vehicles. When seen on the PzKpfw IV it looks like a PzKpfw V Panther track on a PzKpfw IV.
I hope this helps!
Cheers,
Wolfkin
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Madder Cat has posted a nice source for free pdf-files of some militär magazines in another threat about the RSO, check this one out:
http://www.betah.co.il/book_catalog.asp ... 20Vehicles
Look for Panzers In The East - (2) Decline And Defeat 1943-1945 <-- very interesting, lots of great photos...including some of AFVs equipped with Ostketten (( ...although in this e-book, Winterketten are described as tracks for the winter and since 1944 "special wider tracks were developed in 1944 based on the experience acquired through the use of Ostketten in the two previous winters"...!? )), here are two examples from this e-book, a pair of Hummeln (EDIT: equipped wit Winterketten) and a Stug IV equipped with Ostketten:
http://www.betah.co.il/book_catalog.asp ... 20Vehicles
Look for Panzers In The East - (2) Decline And Defeat 1943-1945 <-- very interesting, lots of great photos...including some of AFVs equipped with Ostketten (( ...although in this e-book, Winterketten are described as tracks for the winter and since 1944 "special wider tracks were developed in 1944 based on the experience acquired through the use of Ostketten in the two previous winters"...!? )), here are two examples from this e-book, a pair of Hummeln (EDIT: equipped wit Winterketten) and a Stug IV equipped with Ostketten:
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One more Winterketten-photo:
( source: http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/fo ... /album.htm <-- although in this source it's identified as Ostketten...)
( source: http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/fo ... /album.htm <-- although in this source it's identified as Ostketten...)
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RB wrote :
So RB : The last picture is a panzer IV with, what for .........kette ost or winter,you get the point now
Cheers
Sander
pictures comes from expired ebay sale's
Here you can see the differance between the winterkette and ostkette used on a stug.Quite confusing...I do not really see too much difference between Ostketten & Winterketten...
So RB : The last picture is a panzer IV with, what for .........kette ost or winter,you get the point now
Cheers
Sander
pictures comes from expired ebay sale's
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I stand corrected . i allways though they were bolted on as extentions for witteren.
As i looked at photos it is clear to me the difference is in the casting of track . The gripping bar on the winterketten is normal track width but on the ostketten it is much wider , almost width of whole track . look at pictures closely
As i looked at photos it is clear to me the difference is in the casting of track . The gripping bar on the winterketten is normal track width but on the ostketten it is much wider , almost width of whole track . look at pictures closely