Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by Paul Baumer » 09 Dec 2022, 13:28

Hello everyone,

I've found digitized copies of the OKW Lage Ost Situation Maps up until 1944 online on John Calvin's website, but the years 1944 and 1945 are missing. Does anyone know if digitized copies of the 1944 and 1945 maps exist, and if so, where I can find them?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by Tom Peters » 11 Dec 2022, 06:57

Paul Baumer wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 13:28
Hello everyone,

I've found digitized copies of the OKW Lage Ost Situation Maps up until 1944 online on John Calvin's website, but the years 1944 and 1945 are missing. Does anyone know if digitized copies of the 1944 and 1945 maps exist, and if so, where I can find them?

Thanks in advance.
As far as I know they have not been digitized. John was scanning a lot of those for a long time, but slowed down some. If you can get to NARA/College park, or hire a researcher, they are easy to scan.

I have a few Lage Ost 1:1mil for Feb 45, and some HrsGp Weichsel.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by Mori » 12 Dec 2022, 16:12

Paul Baumer wrote:
09 Dec 2022, 13:28
I've found digitized copies of the OKW Lage Ost Situation Maps up until 1944 online on John Calvin's website, but the years 1944 and 1945 are missing. Does anyone know if digitized copies of the 1944 and 1945 maps exist, and if so, where I can find them?
This is a recurring question. John didn't copy the 1944 files and no one bothered doing so when visiting NARA. This hasn't changed for, what, 10 years?

However, BAMA has started scanning some of these maps. Go to Invenio, and check e.g., RH 2-KART/10923, it leads to a map for August 9th, 1944 on the Western Front. You can hope similar maps for the Eastern front will also show up.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by hilfwis » 13 Dec 2022, 11:47

Mori wrote:
12 Dec 2022, 16:12

This is a recurring question. John didn't copy the 1944 files and no one bothered doing so when visiting NARA. This hasn't changed for, what, 10 years?

However, BAMA has started scanning some of these maps. Go to Invenio, and check e.g., RH 2-KART/10923, it leads to a map for August 9th, 1944 on the Western Front. You can hope similar maps for the Eastern front will also show up.
I'm also searching for the 44-45 lage Ost and thanks for the info on BAMA.
Hope they scan this files, finger crossed.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by hucks216 » 13 Dec 2022, 12:46

For what it is worth, the Russian archives have now uploaded Lagekarten der Heeresgruppe "Mitte" which includes some examples from 1944 & 1945

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... uppe-mitte

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Post by hilfwis » 13 Dec 2022, 21:06

great, nice one, thanks.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by Tom Peters » 14 Dec 2022, 03:46

How can you download a high resolution copy ? Every time I have tried, I just a get a small, low-res file.

thanks,

Mad Dog

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Post by Jeff Leach » 14 Dec 2022, 07:23

I hope it is not like Pamyat-Naroda, which blocked the downloads of the highest-resolution maps. There I increased resolution to the desired level and laboriously used PRINT SCREEN and reassembled the maps from the captures. It works if you only need a couple of makes but does take time.

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Post by hucks216 » 14 Dec 2022, 08:59

For the ones on the Russian archives site? You have to click on Print and a new tab opens up with the image. Then click on cancel print and right click on the image to enable 'Save Image'. Very time consuming and even then some of the maps are not to the best resolution standard.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by hucks216 » 15 Dec 2022, 14:38

Bundesarchiv/Invenio have started to upload some of the Lage Ost maps for 1945 - 3 for February, 2 for March and 1 for April so far. They are the usual top quality when it comes to image resolution.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by Paul Baumer » 16 Dec 2022, 15:45

Thanks for all your answers. The germandocsinrussia link is a great help, and I'll keep an eye on Invenio if more maps pop up on there. Strange how after all those years no one has bothered to digitize the entirety of the Lage Ost 1944 and 1945 maps.

What's also strange is that the Lexikon der Wehrmacht website has snippets of the 1944 and 1945 maps but not the whole thing. When you track an individual infantry division, you can see these snippets for almost every month of the war, including 1944 and 1945. An example is the 35th Infantry Division here: https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gl ... n/35ID.htm

However, people have been asking for the entire 1944 and 1945 maps on their forum as well, and no one seems to have them.

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Re: Looking for German OKW Eastern Front Situation Maps 1944

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Post by hilfwis » 06 Oct 2023, 09:07

The russisch-deutsches projeckt had been uploading à bunch of lage ost, including some for 1944 and 1945.

https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/ ... -1941-1945

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Post by FORBIN Yves » 08 Oct 2023, 12:29

Yes i know since yesterday wonderful :D 8-) seems daily and until 13 november 1944 but damage no possible to upload to keep the important one.

For 1945 the majority was already available

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Post by 2KILFA » 09 Oct 2023, 09:35

Speaking of the maps at GermandocsinRussia, is there a way to download them in good-quality?
It is possible to download the image by right-clicking, but the quality is blurry and poor. It seems that the map-type images are protected and impossible to download in their full size and quality as, for example, from BA-MA.

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Post by Jeff Leach » 11 Oct 2023, 14:58

Pamyat-Naroda also blocks you from downloading the full sized maps that are over a certain size. I usually just use PrintScreen and sticht the captures together later. The method is tme consuming, so I only use it for important maps.

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