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Noob question: HAB and ADB?

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Post by Mori » 18 Jan 2023, 14:17

Hello all,

I'm reading an old article published in journal from Eastern Germany. Footnotes have recurrent references to sources called "HAB" or "ADB". Do you know what archive these are?

Samples:

HAB 335, 6, Nr. 218, Beweis-Dokument EC 416 Niederschrift der Sitzung des Ministerrates vom 4. 9.1936.

ADB Nr. 4376 IG Farbenindustrie AG Bd. 5 Generalsekretariat; Mosler, Schriftwechsel 1937 bis 1938

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Re: Noob question: HAB and ADB?

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Post by Mori » 18 Jan 2023, 14:47

Riddle solved:

HAB = Hauptarchiv Berlin, should now be at Berlin-Licherterfelde

ADB = Archiv der deutschen Bank


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Re: Noob question: HAB and ADB?

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Post by nickterry » 18 Jan 2023, 14:57

The first reference might have been copies of the IG Farben trial - '6' was that case. A Nuremberg document would have in any case been copied from somewhere, the DDR bought pretty much all of the NARA microfilm series and so acquiring the NMT trials would have been logical.

OTOH, the Potsdam archive and other archives including bank archives held a lot of originals.

One can see the mix at work in later DDR historiography eg Dietrich Eichholtz's history of the war economy, and also see parallels with the microfilms ordered for the Polish archives in work of similar vintage, such as Czeslaw Madajczyk's history of occupied Poland.

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Re: Noob question: HAB and ADB?

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Post by Mori » 18 Jan 2023, 16:56

nickterry wrote:
18 Jan 2023, 14:57
The first reference might have been copies of the IG Farben trial - '6' was that case. A Nuremberg document would have in any case been copied from somewhere, the DDR bought pretty much all of the NARA microfilm series and so acquiring the NMT trials would have been logical.
This article I'm reading, "Der Primat der Industrie im Kartell der nationalsozialistischen Macht", by Czichon, published 1968, has a lot of references from this trial; but some footnotes are not explicitely labelled such.

The author also leveraged documents from companies like AEG or Deutsche Bank, which you don't find quoted anywhere else. Although the marxist framework is unconvincing, it also shows a depth of research worth reading. It looks like they had these DDR historians actually did the ground work extensively, mastering a whole range of sources. It's mostly the conclusions which are stretched too far. And completely skipping the racial / antisemitic dimension of the nazi state is a severe biais.

However, reading this kind of old DDR publication, I realize that significant parts of Adam Tooze's Wages of Destruction were not as new as I thought when I read them.

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Re: Noob question: HAB and ADB?

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Post by Westphalia1812 » 22 Jan 2023, 11:56

Mori wrote:
18 Jan 2023, 16:56



And completely skipping the racial / antisemitic dimension of the nazi state is a severe biais.

Well, the DDR loved to paint the communists/socialists as the main victims of the Third Reich. The Buchenwald memorial is a good example for that....
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