Heinkel He 111 questions
Heinkel He 111 questions
Hi all,
It can be seen in wartime images of the Heinkel He 111P variant, two different models of engine exhausts.
Do these different exhausts indicate any particular subvariant of the P model?
Or maybe some particular sub-variant of the DB601 engine?
Or maybe they can be a difference between initial models and final models of the P-model?
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Sturm78
It can be seen in wartime images of the Heinkel He 111P variant, two different models of engine exhausts.
Do these different exhausts indicate any particular subvariant of the P model?
Or maybe some particular sub-variant of the DB601 engine?
Or maybe they can be a difference between initial models and final models of the P-model?
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Possible one is a tropical exhaust,(the top one maybe) there are several www sites on He111 and varients, use BING and be exact in search and I think you might find answer
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
2nd image may be of an older model or one in a second line duty. I doubt they'd want to lose the performance gain from the jet exhausts in frontline units
Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Hi all
According to my information, all subvariants of the He 111P had DB601A engines except the P-6, that introduced the DB601N engine...
Perhaps, the exhausts type of the plane of my second image are tipical of the early versions with DB601A engine and the exhaust type of the aircraft of my first image are of the DB601N engines (P-6 variant) ????
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According to my information, all subvariants of the He 111P had DB601A engines except the P-6, that introduced the DB601N engine...
Perhaps, the exhausts type of the plane of my second image are tipical of the early versions with DB601A engine and the exhaust type of the aircraft of my first image are of the DB601N engines (P-6 variant) ????
Sturm78
Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Well, here another question about the He 111
Does somebody know what subvariant of the He 111H bomber introduced the wide blade propellers ??
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Does somebody know what subvariant of the He 111H bomber introduced the wide blade propellers ??
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Wide blade wooden props are associated with Jumo 211F engines, external bomb racks were available with H-4. Don't know if H-4 was already powered-up with the 211F
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
I have a question, at least one version of the 111 had a tail machinegun, and I have heard either it was remote controlled with a small firing arc, or it was remotely fired and in a static mount. Which is the truth?
Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Hi Denniss,Denniss wrote
Wide blade wooden props are associated with Jumo 211F engines, external bomb racks were available with H-4. Don't know if H-4 was already powered-up with the 211F
I have found contradictory information according to the sources.
Some sources say that early H-4 bombers has Jumo 211D engines but later H-4 copies had the Jumo 211F engine already.
Other sources say that the Jumo 211F engine was introduced with the H-6 variant.....
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
Original source 1941. BAMA
JunkerRe: Heinkel He 111 questions
Thank you very much for these docuemnts, Junker
I don't speak German but from what I can deduce from the text it seems that the Jumo 211F engine was introduced with the H-6 variant, which also introduced the Junkers VS propeller.
Is this propeller model the one with wide blades of my last photo?
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Sturm78
I don't speak German but from what I can deduce from the text it seems that the Jumo 211F engine was introduced with the H-6 variant, which also introduced the Junkers VS propeller.
Is this propeller model the one with wide blades of my last photo?
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
That's definitely a wider prop blade than the metal ones used on the earlier versions.
And you can't simply upgrade an older model with a newer engine due to change of the engine cooling system, 211F/J introduced a pressurized water cooling system.
And you can't simply upgrade an older model with a newer engine due to change of the engine cooling system, 211F/J introduced a pressurized water cooling system.
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Thanks, Denniss
So, all He 111 bombers with wide blade propellers are H-6 or later models....
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So, all He 111 bombers with wide blade propellers are H-6 or later models....
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Re: Heinkel He 111 questions
see the list above - H-8 to 10 based on older bomber models
But should be true for the main production variants
But should be true for the main production variants