Sorry for the misunderstanding, Erich. Actually, I was referring to Bf 109 and FW 190 Wildesau missions such as the pileup on the night of the RAF attack on Peenemünde of August 17, 1943, not the Me 262.Erich wrote:Scott :
Just to clear the air with kmod Welter or 10./NJG 11. The unit never flew Wilde Sau missions, they were all Helle-nacht with the useage of searchlight lanes and radar from several two seater units in the last two month of the war. All losses by this unit were through accidental take off and landing incidents caused by pilot unfamiliarity with the use of the jet at night.
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A pile up on this August mission ? ..........whereabouts was this ?
I have on file a Bf 109G-6 from I./JG 300 crashed due to engine malfunction and fire. The pilot bailed out. This over Husten
A Fw 190A-6 of 4./JG 300 pilot bailed out wounded, crashed a/c after set on fire near Burg.
A Bf 109G-6 of 8./JG 300 pilot killed, a/c crashed killing pilot, a/c 100%, this over Oldenburg.
That's all I have Scott !
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A pile up on this August mission ? ..........whereabouts was this ?
I have on file a Bf 109G-6 from I./JG 300 crashed due to engine malfunction and fire. The pilot bailed out. This over Husten
A Fw 190A-6 of 4./JG 300 pilot bailed out wounded, crashed a/c after set on fire near Burg.
A Bf 109G-6 of 8./JG 300 pilot killed, a/c crashed killing pilot, a/c 100%, this over Oldenburg.
That's all I have Scott !
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Erich,
I'm just relying on my memory. If it wasn't the Peenemünde raid then it must have been the Hamburg firestorm raid the month before.
Charlie,
The propeller on the nose of the Me 163 is a windmill to generate electrical power for the aircraft, since the rocket engine does not have a power-take-off drive for a generator as a turbojet or a piston-engine aircraft would.
I'm just relying on my memory. If it wasn't the Peenemünde raid then it must have been the Hamburg firestorm raid the month before.
Charlie,
The propeller on the nose of the Me 163 is a windmill to generate electrical power for the aircraft, since the rocket engine does not have a power-take-off drive for a generator as a turbojet or a piston-engine aircraft would.
Scott.........
the first fatality of II./JG 300 and an Fw 190 was on July 21, 1943 during a runway warm up where the pilot ran off the runway and was killed.
the second fatality was a Bf 109G-6 where the pilot was kia in combat on July 26/27, 1943
the third and fourth were a fatality of a Fw 190A-4 pilot crash as he was starting down the runway and the other was an Fw 190A-5, with a/c on fire trying to make a landing and the pilot crash landed his burning a/c, coming away wounded / both of these were on July 26, 1943.
another on 28th of July and on 29th of July during combat where the pilot bailed out. The 30th brought another Bf 109G-6, wrecked on take-off with 80% damage.
another 4 combat missions during the rest of July brought 2 kia in 1 wounded and 1 bailing out unhurt.
a big problem with ex-bomber pilots and crewman getting used to their new single engine mounts......
if you can find an exact date then maybe I can follow up on it. The JG 300 book will not be ready till next spring earliest.
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the second fatality was a Bf 109G-6 where the pilot was kia in combat on July 26/27, 1943
the third and fourth were a fatality of a Fw 190A-4 pilot crash as he was starting down the runway and the other was an Fw 190A-5, with a/c on fire trying to make a landing and the pilot crash landed his burning a/c, coming away wounded / both of these were on July 26, 1943.
another on 28th of July and on 29th of July during combat where the pilot bailed out. The 30th brought another Bf 109G-6, wrecked on take-off with 80% damage.
another 4 combat missions during the rest of July brought 2 kia in 1 wounded and 1 bailing out unhurt.
a big problem with ex-bomber pilots and crewman getting used to their new single engine mounts......
if you can find an exact date then maybe I can follow up on it. The JG 300 book will not be ready till next spring earliest.
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The "windmill" was actually a ram air turbine. Electrical power from the ram air turbine was fed to an apparatus including the radio, reflector gunsight (either Revi16B, -C, or -D), direction finder, compass, firing circuits for the twin cannons, as well as some of the lighting for the cockpit instrumentation.Scott Smith wrote: ↑17 Nov 2002, 08:47The propeller on the nose of the Me 163 is a windmill to generate electrical power for the aircraft, since the rocket engine does not have a power-take-off drive for a generator as a turbojet or a piston-engine aircraft would.