stealth type design planes 1943

[waffen]

has any one read the book MAN MADE UFOS it has a few chapters devoted to NAZI future airforce designs and testing with actual photos and blueprints could anyone add some of these to the forums picture gallery?

[Xavier]

check this site..(and enjoy and dream!)

http://luft46.com/

best regards

Xavier

[Radar]

Search (google) for the word "Haunebu", and you will get quite a few hits
about that program

[gabriel pagliarani]

The only stealth plane of WW2 was the excellent British Mosquito. Its own totally wooden structure was permeable to the metric length radiowaves emitted by german Freya radars. But the principle was far different from the actual stealths. A modern stealth plane uses the main controlled deviation of radar beam by "bouncing back" far from the ground emitter plus a partial radio-absorbtion due to plastic dielectric coatings: in the while the wooden structure of the Mosquito partially absorbed the radiation and partially was transparent to it. Germans produced centimetric radio-valve emitters able to "bounce back" on wood only at the end of WWII.

[PzKpfw38(t)]

Does Anyone know anything about the Horton V Experimental wing?

[Trommelfeuer]

It's Horten Ho V ...

Experimental flying wing aircraft, designed as a combat aircraft. The Ho Va and Ho Vb were two-seaters powered by two 60hp Hirth HM 60R engines. The Ho Vc was converted from the Ho Vb, and was a single-seater.

Please check this source:

http://www.chez.com/lesovnis/aircraft/horten5.htm

And this:

(...click on pic please...photo's showing a Horten Ho V C....)

With friendly greetings, Sven

[PzKpfw38(t)]

Thanks Sven, that was really helpfull, another example of a plane with stealth features, but was it invisible on radar?

kind regards

Alex

[Trommelfeuer]

Glad I could help!

I really don't know if the Horten Ho 5 was a "stealth" plane (I don't think so..)....perhaps version A, but this proved to be ineffective.

(...Horten Ho 5 A was built of plastic materials, but crashed during tests...next models B & C were built of conventional materials...)

However, Horten "flying wings" surely inspired american scientists to develop their stealth planes, for example the Northrop B-2 stealth bomber.
(...Fortunately for the Allies, the Gotha factory and the Horten IX (Gotha Go 229) prototype--the world's first all-wing turbojet--were captured by U.S. forces in April 1945...)


(...click the pic please...)

Here's another good source on the Horten Ho 5, 6 & 7:
http://members.cox.net/rebid/Farnborough_04.html#top

With friendly greetings, Sven

P.S. The captured Horten IX (Gotha Go 229) is stored at NASM's Paul E. Garber Restoration, Preservation & Storage Facility in Silver Hill, Maryland.

10 photos of the stored Horten IX :
http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_ ... l_hoix.htm

[HC8604]

So how many of these planes were ever built?

[daveh]

Stealth as a concept was not one really pursued by aircraft designers in WW2. The wooden construction of the Mosquito was not the result of such considerations.
The tail less designs of the Horten brothers started with model designs and a first full size aircraft- the Ho I sailplane in 1931. The Horten Ho IX was the first design intended as a combat aircraft. The first protoype was to have BMW 109-003A-1 turbojets but these could not be fitted as they had alarger diameter than expected. The Ho IX VI was completed as a glider. The Ho IX V2 was redesigned and was fitted with 2 Junkers 109-004B-1 turbojets. This was successfully flown at Oranienburg but lost an engine and was destroyed after a few hours of flight tests. Its success led to the design being taken up by the RLM and was given to Gotha to develop as a service aircraft. The third prototype now called the Gotha G0229 V3 and was captured complete by the US VIII corps of US 3rd Army.
V4 and V5 were under construction and V6 and V7 were just started at the end of the war.

See German Aircraft of the Second World War by A Kay and J R Smith
ISBN 0 85177 920 4 published by Putnam

[Matt Gibbs]

A good book on these types is by Schiffer books, have a search on thier site, it is called The Horten Brothers with many photos never before published. An interesting read about their tailless designs and theory
Regards
Matt Gibbs

[Deutscher]

When i saw this pictures of this plane (i know this plane before, but havent seen"true" pictures of it) i feel its uncanny. Where from came this explosion of crazy ideas?? V1, Horten, the jet engine....
http://www.kheichhorn.de/html/body_sonderwaffen.html

[Cantankerous]

When i saw this pictures of this plane (i know this plane before, but havent seen"true" pictures of it) i feel its uncanny. Where from came this explosion of crazy ideas?? V1, Horten, the jet engine....
http://www.kheichhorn.de/html/body_sonderwaffen.html

The jet engine was invented by Englishman Sir Frank Whittle. We don't know if the Horten brothers were aware of the work of Jack Northrop when designing their first flying wings or developed their flying wing technology independently.