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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by von thoma » 27 Aug 2021 23:28

Not French markings.

Without colours it is hard to identify the tail flag...
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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by John Hilly » 28 Aug 2021 12:57

Dutch?
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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Denniss » 28 Aug 2021 19:13

Similar looking RAF/SAAF P-36 variant
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... OS)274.jpg
French had their tail painted with Tricolore, the small flag at this position smells like Commonwealth use

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Sep 2021 20:31

Denniss wrote
Similar looking RAF/SAAF P-36 variant
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... OS)274.jpg
Ummmhhh...I think the markings of the aircraft of my image are completely different to those of the image of the link...apart of the different engine... :?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Denniss » 04 Sep 2021 11:57

just focus on the tail flag, french had a completely different flag and they marked the complete rear rudder with it
See also this RAF Mohawk in India with different flag in same position https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 2_1943.jpg

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by von thoma » 04 Sep 2021 23:46

I've searched for that roundel, in every country where it was in service, and couldn't find anything.
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Post by ROLAND1369 » 05 Sep 2021 14:58

I also have searched all insignia and have come up negative. The only thing I can come up with is an early or poorly done version of the South East Asian version of the British roundel with the red center replaced. This would fit with the employment of H 75s with the Indian Air Force. I realize the tail flag and roundel are not perfect but the letter of the regulation and the implementation of markings by forward units does not always conform.

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by peeved » 05 Sep 2021 17:22

Repainted by the Germans for propaganda shots/films like this Spitfire from http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/ ... nd-Up.aspx
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which also has a type B fuselage roundel, fin flash colours in wrong order and similar phony lettering scheme,
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as probably does the 2nd ex-French Hawk 75 too in this pic's background:
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From https://flugzeugclassic.de/klassiker/cu ... amer-adler
"Nicht ganz echt: 1940 von den Deutschen erbeutete französische Hawk 75 mit Pseudo-RAF-Markierungen für die Produktion eines Propagandafilms".

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Sep 2021 21:38

Thanks, Markus

Probably you are right

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Oct 2021 15:11

Hi all,

I need help with the exact variant of this Bf 110.
This plane not have the air intake in the nose typical of the "E" but on the other hand have enlarged lower engines oil coolers, as can to be seen on some "E" aircrafts..... :?

Any idea ?

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by von thoma » 29 Oct 2021 21:34

Those air inlets were used in E-2, E-3/ Trop versions.
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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Sturm78 » 30 Oct 2021 10:49

von thoma wrote
Those air inlets were used in E-2, E-3/ Trop versions.
Yes, but the E versions had a air intake in the nose (red circle) that does not appear in the plane of my image....

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Rulaman » 31 Oct 2021 11:29

Sturm78 wrote:
29 Oct 2021 15:11
Hi all,

I need help with the exact variant of this Bf 110.
This plane not have the air intake in the nose typical of the "E" but on the other hand have enlarged lower engines oil coolers, as can to be seen on some "E" aircrafts..... :?

Any idea ?

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It a C-version configured for glider-towing duties. You can see parts of the equipment below the fuselage as well as one of the rear-view mirrors in front of the cockpit on the left side (aerodynamic covered). And if you look more closely, you will notice that parts of the tail fairing have been remove to make place for the towing gear. Best Frank

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Oct 2021 14:39

Frank wrote
It a C-version configured for glider-towing duties. You can see parts of the equipment below the fuselage as well as one of the rear-view mirrors in front of the cockpit on the left side (aerodynamic covered). And if you look more closely, you will notice that parts of the tail fairing have been remove to make place for the towing gear.
Thank you very much for your help, Frank...good eye!! :wink:

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Re: Id. german aircraft

Post by T. A. Gardner » 12 Jan 2022 01:06

While the aircraft itself is obvious, this is the first time I've seen photos of an Me 323 with two bladed props on the engines. Was this some sort of one-off or a standard variant?

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