Go 242 Unit Marking
Go 242 Unit Marking
I am wondering if anyone can help me identify the markings on this Go 242. Reportedly, it was originally assigned to the I. Gruppe of Luftlandegeschwader 2 and then given to Sturmstaffel 1 in November 1943. The markings appear to be CC + O(?). I'm wondering if this was the designation for the I./LLG 2 or for Sturmstaffel 1. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Go 242 Unit Marking
Are you sure CC ?
It's not C6 ?
It's not C6 ?
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Yes, that is certainly possible.
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C6 is the code of the Fliegerführer 4.
The transport unit was formed the 2-44 and disbanded the 9-44 and fought in the north of the russian front.But only Ju 52 were recorded.
We can see the snow on the picture....
It's only a differrent way,I never said that is the right answer.
I have the book "Luftwaffe codes and markings" of Rosch by Schiffer and I never found CC as code.
The transport unit was formed the 2-44 and disbanded the 9-44 and fought in the north of the russian front.But only Ju 52 were recorded.
We can see the snow on the picture....
It's only a differrent way,I never said that is the right answer.
I have the book "Luftwaffe codes and markings" of Rosch by Schiffer and I never found CC as code.
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Re: Go 242 Unit Marking
There appears to be an E (possibly yellow) between the fuselage cross and the O (or Q). This would make it a 4 character code, not unknown on Go 244s (see p272 Rosch) though I haven't seen it before on a Go 242.
If this is the case, the most likely interpretation for the 1st 2 characters would be G6. KGr. z.b.V. 104 used this code and operated Go 244s, but the last character does not fit in (the Gruppe used D-T-U-V-W). However, KGr. z.b.V. 105 did use the character Q, but as the 4th staffel, the letter colour would probably have been blue. The most probable solution would be TG 4. This operated a 16 staffel, which would make the code 6G+EQ, but the colour should be white. If TG 4 had operated an 18 staffel it would have been 6G+(yellow)EO, but Rosch makes no meantion of an 18 staffel.
Whilst not a definitive answer, I hope this helps
If this is the case, the most likely interpretation for the 1st 2 characters would be G6. KGr. z.b.V. 104 used this code and operated Go 244s, but the last character does not fit in (the Gruppe used D-T-U-V-W). However, KGr. z.b.V. 105 did use the character Q, but as the 4th staffel, the letter colour would probably have been blue. The most probable solution would be TG 4. This operated a 16 staffel, which would make the code 6G+EQ, but the colour should be white. If TG 4 had operated an 18 staffel it would have been 6G+(yellow)EO, but Rosch makes no meantion of an 18 staffel.
Whilst not a definitive answer, I hope this helps
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Re: Go 242 Unit Marking
Incidentally, the aircraft could be a Go 244. I don't know how to tell the difference from the section we can see.
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Having looked at the photo again and thought about the options, I think the most likely answer is that it's a Go 244, G6+(blue)EQ of KGr. z.b.V. 105.
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Thanks Dave for taking the time to study the markings. Just because the Sturmstaffel had two Go 242 from the I./LLG 2 assigned to it doesn't necessarily mean this is one of them. Perhaps this Go 244 of K.G.z.b.V. 105 assisted in making the transfer of the Sturmstaffel from Langenhagen to Salzwedel in March 1944.
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Dave, attached is another view of the glider. Please let me know if you still think it is a Go 244. Thanks!
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It helps if you read the original question properly!
The second photo, whilst not being 100%, would strongly suggest that it's a Go 242 and not a Go 244. If that's the case, then it is very unlikely that it is a 4 character code as I've never seen it before on a glider. There are, however, photos of Go 242s with their factory code (see Rosch's "Luftwaffe Codes etc." book p101), which it seems likely is what we have here. The 1st 2 characters could be C or G or any combination and the last letter could be an O or Q. The guys who have lists of factory codes might be able to narrow down the options for you.
The fact that the 3 letter of the factory code in coloured is unusual, but not unknown. I don't have many of my references to hand to give you an example, but I'm sure I remember seeing one before.
It's also interesting that the glider was assigned to a fighter unit. Obviously transport aircraft were attached to all units at some time, but there are few photos of them which can be linked and it's even rarer for a fighter unit.
Again, I hope this is of some help. I'm afraid it's far from definitive, but it's the best guess I can give at the moment.
The second photo, whilst not being 100%, would strongly suggest that it's a Go 242 and not a Go 244. If that's the case, then it is very unlikely that it is a 4 character code as I've never seen it before on a glider. There are, however, photos of Go 242s with their factory code (see Rosch's "Luftwaffe Codes etc." book p101), which it seems likely is what we have here. The 1st 2 characters could be C or G or any combination and the last letter could be an O or Q. The guys who have lists of factory codes might be able to narrow down the options for you.
The fact that the 3 letter of the factory code in coloured is unusual, but not unknown. I don't have many of my references to hand to give you an example, but I'm sure I remember seeing one before.
It's also interesting that the glider was assigned to a fighter unit. Obviously transport aircraft were attached to all units at some time, but there are few photos of them which can be linked and it's even rarer for a fighter unit.
Again, I hope this is of some help. I'm afraid it's far from definitive, but it's the best guess I can give at the moment.
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Sorry to jump in on this old thread but I thought it worth mentioning that some Go 244 transports were converted back into gliders due to the Go 244 being terminally under powered. Thus what you are seeing in the original photo may be a mix of old and new codes. The "E" looks faded or over-painted compared to the other letters. This may be one of those transports converted back into a glider.
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