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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Grzesio » 26 Jun 2018, 10:25

Great pictures, thanks!

One notice - the "Rocket Bomb" from the picture:

https://forum.axishistory.com/download/ ... &mode=view

... actually is a very typical PC 1000 RS, just with a wrongly depicted tail section. The problem is, the Allies captured a PC 1000 RS with the light alloy tail broken to pieces and for some reason failed to recreate its proper shape and position - they reconstructed the tail as too long and mounted backwards - behind the nozzles rather than around them and the combustion chamber.
Even if the bomb is properly named as the PC 1000 RS in the drawing, they were apparently initially fooled with the warhead weight and this reconstructed bomb is often identified as a 500 kg rocket bomb (i.e. PC 500 RS) instead of the proper PC 1000 RS. Some cross sectional drawings also show too thin warhead walls, suggesting a bomb of the SD or even SC class. :roll:

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Jul 2018, 22:04

Hi all,

Three images from Ebay:

Image 1: SC50 or SD70 ?? :?
Image 2: I think ZC50 and SC50 bombs...
Image 3: SC250 ?? :?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Grzesio » 04 Jul 2018, 12:49

Image 2: I think ZC50 and SC50 bombs...
I think they are SC 50 - one can see both fuze and HE codes painted on their bodies, some have their tail cones painted in a bright colour (apparently yellow), what seems to be an early form of marking HE bombs (before the stripes were introduced). I also think, ZC bombs were not equipped with whistles? The dark noses on some bombs are a mystery for me - but we've seen here incediaries with dark noses too - so maybe there was such a marking in use around 1940, meaning... something. :)
I've seen no regulations considering handling of different bomb types, but in case of artillery ammunition mixing of live and training/blind rounds was strictly prohibited - combat ammunition was not allowed to be anywhere near the gun, if training shooting was performed.
So all these bombs are either SC, either ZC - but I think they are SC. Notice, there are SC 250 boxes in the background.

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jul 2018, 13:44

Thanks a lot for your answer, Grzesio.

Probably you are right....There are too much combinations of markings/colours on the german bombs, so it is difficult a easy identification... :roll:

Any idea about the other two images ?

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Post by Sturm78 » 24 Jul 2018, 19:11

Hi all,

Some images from Ebay. Any idea ?? :?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Aug 2018, 14:13

Nobody ??

Well, here another two images from Ebay:

Image 1: ZC250 ?? :? ...or SC250 ??
Image 2: I think SC250 and SC50 in the background


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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 11 Aug 2018, 15:08

Nobody ??

Well, here another two images from Ebay:

Image 1: SC250...I think....
Image 2: SC50 ??

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Grzesio » 17 Aug 2018, 11:03

Image 1: ZC250 ?? :? ...or SC250 ??
No idea... Looks like the SC 250, but the nose colour...

By the way, one thing became clear in the meantime...
The dark noses on some bombs are a mystery for me - but we've seen here incediaries with dark noses too - so maybe there was such a marking in use around 1940, meaning... something.
Black tip of the nose denoted a bomb type ftted with an additional booster charge placed longitudinally inside the warhead.

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Sep 2018, 17:58

Thanks for your answer, Grzesio

Here another two images:

Image 1: italian bombs...Bomba 100-T or 50-T, ??
Image 2: Romanian boms. Any idea ?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 05 Oct 2018, 18:01

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: I would say a SC500 J ....
Is this correct ?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Oct 2018, 23:45

Hi all,

Some images from Ebay:

Image 1: Probably SC250 and SC50 bombs
Image 2: I would say PuW 50 kg german WWI-era bombs
Image 3: I would say SC50 or SD70...I have never been able to distinguish between these bomb models ... :?


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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Grzesio » 18 Oct 2018, 09:34

Image 3: I would say SC50 or SD70...I have never been able to distinguish between these bomb models ...
Looking at the inscriptions at their bodies (plus relatively light colour with lack of any other colour markings), I'd say they are SBe 50 concrete splinter bombs of A i and C II variants. :)

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 18 Oct 2018, 21:51

Grzesio wrote
Looking at the inscriptions at their bodies (plus relatively light colour with lack of any other colour markings), I'd say they are SBe 50 concrete splinter bombs of A i and C II variants. :)
Thank you very much for your answer, Grzesio.... :wink:
Which is your opinion about the other two images ?

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Oct 2018, 21:34

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: French bomb ??

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Re: Id. aerial bombs

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Post by ROLAND1369 » 26 Oct 2018, 01:00

My best guess would be. The peculiar a French 40 kg fragmentation . The pecular shape results from the bomb body being made from an artillery shell. source is TM 9-1985-6 ITALIAN AND FRENCH EXPLOSIVE ORDNANCE, 1953.
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