Ju 52/3M payload/range charts

[ltcolonel]

crew 5 (450 kg)
empty weight 6500 kg
16 soldiers or 1600 kg payload
500 and 1000 m height v 140 km/h fuel 290 kg/h 6 hour in air
2000 and 3000 m height v 140 km/h fuel 240 kg/h 7 hour in air
500 and 1000 m v 135 km/h fuel 260 kg/h 6 hour 30 min in air
2000 and 3000 m v 135 km/h fuel 220 kg/h 8 hour in air

[Dili]

Thanks. An inefficient transport plane. Itcolonel what engines had this Yugoslav version?

[phylo_roadking]

An inefficient transport plane.

Of course it was. That's why the Germans were contantly trying to develop and efficient replacement with greater carrying capacity...and a rear ramp etc., to operate alongside the Ju52.

But...

1/ As of WWII this was hardly going to be obtained and preserve STOL status

2/ The Ju52 was a "matured" design using a "non-strategic" engine; it was slow to build because of the corrugated panelling etc., but was otherwise simple, and could be replicated in short order, such as the French operation.

3/ There is "economy in numbers" - large numbers of Ju52s were always going to be potentially more useful than a much smaller number of larger aircraft without the STOL capacity and requiring longer, better-maintained flightlines etc....

[Topspeed]

Is there any record how many people were evaquated max. with a Ju 52 from Stalingrad ? I recall reading people were hanging still from the wings as it taxied...in one occasion.

[Piotr Mikołajski]

There is separate thread about medevac aircraft: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&t=189033

[Marcus]

A new thread entitled "Alternatives to Ju 52" was created at the request of the participants.

/Marcus

[Urmel]

Piotr was kind enough to forward the important elements of his post above to me by PM while the thread was closed; it's worth emphasising the following in particular -

Payload: 3510 kg (including 1800 litres of fuel)

It means that overall cargo and luggage area was planned for 1740 kg + weight of fuel and in fact "Wicher" could carry 1350 kg + weight of fuel.

This combination of comparisons too seems not to be fair and/or correct, as the weight of gasoline is not 1kg/1l, but as some sort rule of thumb 0.75kg/l
1800l fuel weight being ca. 1350kg.

Looking once again at Nowarra, now that we have the precise figures for the PZL-44 Wicher I was looking for...

The cargo weight of up to 4080-4100Kg for the optimal Ju52/3mg7e does not include the weight of fuel

What was then the max fuel tankage that (the optimal) Ju52/3mg7e could carry when flying with the mentioned 4080-4100Kg cargo weight?

Regards, Juha

Worthwhile to look at this again from before this Wicher nonsense started?

Yugoslavian Fligt manual

Range (T. O. Weight 10480 kg, Fuel 1750 kg, Oil 180 kg, payload 1600 kg)
fuel reserve 15 min flight
cruising speed 140 km/h (on all height) true speed, zero wind
height 500 m and 1000 m range 840 km
height 2000 m and 3000 m range 960 km
crusing speed for maximum range 135 km/h (on all height) true speed, zero wind
height 500 m and 1000 m range 880 km
height 2000 m and 3000 m range 1100 km

4,000kg is the total available for:

- cargo/passengers
- crew
- fuel

The Maximum zero fuel weight would be required to understand how much payload can be traded for fuel I believe. Does anyone have that?

4,000kg is the total available for:

- cargo/passengers
- crew
- fuel

The Maximum zero fuel weight would be required to understand how much payload can be traded for fuel I believe. Does anyone have that?

A valid question.
Snautser05 gives here (source?) figures around 600kg = ca. 800 litres fuel.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1#p1638723
Do mentions of lower tankage exist? If so, where (source)?

Also it would be interesting to know what was the heaviest load carried by a Ju 52 in action/tests.

Regards, Juha