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Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby arhivarix » 25 Sep 2012 12:40

Dear friends, who know about the Luftnachrichten-Truppenabzeichen,because Ihave make many research but no luck.
If someone have also infos about these toops it is welcome.
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby SES » 26 Sep 2012 16:30

You may like to start here :wink:
http://www.gyges.dk/the_luftnachrichten_dienst.htm
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby arhivarix » 27 Sep 2012 07:36

:milsmile: :milsmile: Thank you my friend. The page about Luftnachrichten Truppen is practically new!!!!
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Urmel » 27 Sep 2012 13:17

SES wrote:You may like to start here :wink:
http://www.gyges.dk/the_luftnachrichten_dienst.htm
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Do you have info on LN-Rgt 4 in 1941/42?
The excellence of [German] forward repair and recovery organisation gives us a salutary lesson in this respect. 7 Armoured Division report, Sept. 1941

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Larry D. » 27 Sep 2012 16:08

Do you have info on LN-Rgt 4 in 1941/42?


What component? It was a big regiment. It supported Luftflotte 4 in Ukraine and S Russia, operating the Luftflottenkdo.'s communications centers, it's aircraft safety systems, it strung wire and ran cables, it intercepted, decoded and analyzed Soviet signals, etc.

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby SES » 27 Sep 2012 16:49

Hi arhivarix
Check the first link on the page here:
http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20and%20Jagd.htm
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Re: Luftnachrichten-Truppen

Postby Urmel » 27 Sep 2012 17:01

Larry D. wrote:
Do you have info on LN-Rgt 4 in 1941/42?


What component? It was a big regiment. It supported Luftflotte 4 in Ukraine and S Russia, operating the Luftflottenkdo.'s communications centers, it's aircraft safety systems, it strung wire and ran cables, it intercepted, decoded and analyzed Soviet signals, etc.

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I meant the African unit.
The excellence of [German] forward repair and recovery organisation gives us a salutary lesson in this respect. 7 Armoured Division report, Sept. 1941

The CRUSADER Project - The Winter Battle in the Desert 1941/42

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby arhivarix » 30 Oct 2012 08:00

The subject is Luftnachrichten Regiment 253.It is formed from the Luftnachrichten Regiment Harkov(Kharchow-english spelling). In 1942-1944 the germans maded in Romania an radar defence line for protection of Ploieşti site and the romanian sector of the Danube river. The radar network was compose from 33 sites. The unit was subordinated to the Deutsche Luftwaffe Mission Rumänien conducted by Generalleutnant Alfred Gerstenberg. His subordinates was GM Julius Kuderna Kdr. 5. Flak Div. ,
GM Hans Simon Kdr. 15. Flak Div., GM Georg Teschner Luftschutz-Brig. 1, Ploieşti. The project was made by GM Flg.Ing. Emil Treppe.

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby arhivarix » 30 Oct 2012 08:20

Corection: Luftnachrichten-Regiment 250 not Luftnachrichten-Regiment 253.
The structures of the Luftnachrichten Truppen was at 23.08.1944:

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 24.
II/Ln.Rgt 24 ?.43 ?
III/Ln.Rgt 24 19.3.43-7.43… Bucuresti ?

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 250.
Formed in the summer 1943 from Lg.Nachr.Charkow.
Stab, I/Ln.Rgt 250 ?.43-8.44 Bucuresti
II/Ln.Rgt 250 ?.43-8.44 Slatina (6 stations: 7/250-Titu, 8/250-Comana, +?).
III/Ln.Rgt 250 ?.43-8.44 Ploiesti (3 stations: 13/250-Puceni, 14/250 Vălenii de Munte, 15/250-Buzău).

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 250

Kommandeure:

Oberst Helmuth Oetker, 6.43 - 9.43
Oberst Emil Terpe, 29.9.43 - 8.44

Formed 6.43 in Bukarest.

Stab:

Formed 6.43 in Bukarest from Stab/Luftgau-Narichten-Regiment Charkow.

Abteilung:

Formed 6.43 in Otopeni from Stab I./Luftgau-Narichten-Regiment Charkow.
1. Flugmelde-Auswerte- und Betriebs-Kompanie at Otopeni from 2./Luftgau-Narichten-Regiment Charkow. Disbanded 9.44
4. Telegraphen-Bau-Kompanie at Otopeni from 20./Luftgau-Narichten-Regiment Charkow
5. Funk-Leit-Kompanie at Otopeni (new). Disbanded 9.44

Abteilung:

Formed 6.43 in Slatina (new), with:
6. Flugmelde-Auswerte- und Betriebs-Kompanie in Slatina (new). Disbanded 9.44
7. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Targoviste (Stellung "Tiberius") (new). Disbanded 9.44
8. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Manastirea (Stellung "Marius") (new). Disbanded 9.44
9. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Comana (Stellung "Cornelius") (new). Disbanded 9.44
10. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Bujorei (Stellung "Belisar") (new). Disbanded 9.44
11. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Otopeni (Stellung "Oktavian") (new). Disbanded 9.44

Abteilung:

Formed 6.43 in Ploesti, from Stab/Luftnachrichten-Abteilung 126. Disbanded 9.44.
13. Flugmelde-Auswerte- und Betriebs-Kompanie at Ploesti (new). Disbanded 9.44
14. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Pietrosita (Stellung "Pompejus") (new). Disbanded 9.44
15. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Valenii de Munte (Stellung "Varus") (new). Disbanded 9.44
16. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Buzau (Stellung "Brutus") (new). Disbanded 9.44

Abteilung:

Formed 1.3.44 in Fetesti(?). Unofficial designation, real designation: Stab V./Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 17.
17. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Jilavele (Stellung "Justinian") (new). Operated under V. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 17, from 1944 under II./250
18. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Valea Canepei(?) (Stellung "Valerian") (new). Operated under V. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 17
19. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Istria(?) (Stellung "?") (new). Operated under V. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
20. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Constanza(?) (Stellung "Cicero") (new). Operated under V. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
21. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Fetesti(?) (Stellung "Fabius") (new). Operated under V. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
Unit designations are uncertain.

Abteilung:

Formed 25.5.44 in Bucharest(?). Unofficial designation, real designation: Stab II./Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25.
22. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Bengesti-Ciocadia(?) (Stellung "Clemens") (new). Operated under II. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
23. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Soars(?) (Stellung "Armin") (new). Operated under II. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
24. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Roman(?) (Stellung "Roman") (new). Operated under II. (Flugmelde)/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 25. Disbanded 9.44
25. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Husi(?) (Stellung "Helmuth") (new). Possibly never completed. Disbanded 9.44
26. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Causeni(?) (Stellung "Mahnzar") (new). Possibly never completed. Disbanded 9.44
27. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Tatarbunary(?) (Stellung "Theodor") (new). Possibly never completed. Disbanded 9.44
28. Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie in Mahmudia (Stellung "Marta") (new). Possibly never completed. Disbanded 9.44

In 7.44 25./Luftnachrichten-Regiment 250 was renamed 27./Luftnachrichten-Regiment 250; reformed.


Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillone:
130/III(K): 8.44 Călărasi;
105/VI(K): 1944 Buzău, Focsani;
133/XI(K): 8.44 Constanta;
8/XII: 8.44 Focsani.

Luftnachrichten-Regiment 24
Kommandeure:
• Oberst Heinrich Gerlach, 22.3.41 - 8.41
• Obstlt Walter Bauerschäfer, 8.41 - 1942
Activated 3.41 in Breslau(?) for Luftflotte 4 with:
• Stab/24 new with:
o Kraftwagen-Werkstatt-Zug new(?)
o Stab II./24 (Telegrafenbau) from Stab/Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 1 with:
4./24 from 1./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 1
5./24 from 2./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 1
6./24 from 3./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 1
Gerätekolonne from Gerätekolonne/Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 1 (disbanded 11.44)
Transportkolonne new (disbanded 2.44)
o Stab III./24 (Telegrafenbau) from Stab./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 4 with:
7./24 from 1./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 4
8./24 from 2./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 4
9./24 from 3./Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 4
Gerätekolonne from Gerätekolonne/Luftnachricten-Telegrafenbau-Abteilung zbV 4
Transportkolonne new (disbanded 2.44)
In 8.41 Stab/Ln.Rgt.24 became Stab/Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment Rostow, and I. - III./24 now became independent.
In 1.45 9./Ln.Rgt.24 became 5./Ln.Rgt.42, and Gerätekolonne III./Ln.Rgt.24 became Gerätekolonne II./Ln.Rgt.42; Stab III./Ln.Rgt.24 and 5./Ln.Rgt.24 was disbanded. Apparently 4., 6. and 7./Ln.Rgt.24 was also disbanded at this time.
Service:
• 4.41 to Bukarest (VIII. Fliegerkorps)
• 4.41 - 5.41 operated in Romania and Greece, then back to Bukarest (now also joined by III./24 from Poland)
• 6.41 in Romania, attached to Luftflotte 4
• 7.41 III./24 at Balti (Belzy)
• 8.41 now attached to V. Fliegerkorps
• 13.9.41 Stab/24 at Kirowograd
• 25.10.41 III./24 to Charkow
• 24.12.41 Stab/24 at Dnjepropetrowsk, II./24 in Charkow-Poltawa area, III./24 in Pawlograd-Dnjepropetrowsk area (III. Abt. was attached to Luftgau-Kommando Kiew, II./24 attached to Luftgau-Kommando Rostow)
• 9.42 II./24 at Kropotkin, still attached to Luftgau-Kommando Rostow
• 29.10.42 II./24 moved to Holland, attached to XII. Fliegerkorps (until 24.2.43)
• 24.2.43 II./24 moved to Bukarest
• 11.3.43 III./24 left Krivoi Rog, and moved to Bukarest
• 7.43 4./24 moved to Bulgaria
• early 1944 8./24 in Belgrade
• 1944 II./24 at Ploesti
• 6.44 Stab III./24 and Gerätekolonne moved from Bukarest to Sofia (7./24 also in Sofia)
• 8.44 II./24 moved to Hungary (4./24 to Nisch), III./24 moved to Belgrade
• 1945 remnants in Hungary

Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 6./III
Formed 6.40 from Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 306 with 3 companies. In 1942 2 companies were replaced by 1. and 2./19/III. In 1.43 2 companies (1. and 3.) were destroyed in Stalingrad, and was replaced by 1. and 2./9/VIII. Heavy losses 8.44 in Romania (Jassy and Ploesti). Ended the war in Luftgau XVII.
Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 130./III (K)
Formed 1943 from Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 30./III. 1944 Romania, heavy losses, 8.44 at Călăraşi.

Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 105./VI (K)
Formed in Winter 1943/44 from Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 5./VI. 1944 in Romania (Buzău, Focşani). Ended the war in Luftgau XVII.
Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 133./XI (K)
Formed in Winter 43/44 with 3 companies from Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 33./XI. 1944 in South Russia (4.44 Baljajewka), 8.44 Romania (Constanza), 1945 in Gmünd/ND (Luftgau XVII).

Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 7./XVII
Formed in 1940 with 3 companies from Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 15./XII. Served in Mariupol and Taganrog. From 1943 had 5 companies. In Winter 43/44 renamed Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 207./XVII (Hiwi).

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby SES » 30 Oct 2012 08:32

For locations please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Flum%20SE%205.pdf
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Erik k. » 17 Feb 2016 21:09

Hi,

I live in the Netherlands. Near mij Hometown of Gouda a Leuchtfeuer was positioned from the first of december 1940 up to October 1941.
I try to find out which unit this was, can anyone help?

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Jan Withagen » 14 Feb 2017 17:25

I'm in the possession of a map of the Netherlands, marked III. [Abteilung] / Lg.Nachr.Rgt. Holland
I'm located in Bergen op Zoom, the Netherlands.
To the best of my knowledge, this map was found in 1945 in the building in Bergen op Zoom where this Abteilung was situated.
I'm not really familiar with the desiginations / names, but according to the information on a Danisch site, the III./ Lg.Nachr.Rgt. Holland was based in Terschelling (North of Holland) and Iv./Lg.Nachr.Rgt. Holland in Bergen op Zoom (South of Holland) Or do I have this wrong?
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby SES » 14 Feb 2017 18:45

Hi Jan,
A very fine find and welcome to the forum.
Could you possibly send it to me in hi-res.
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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Larry D. » 14 Feb 2017 20:13

Jan W. -

There is not a lot of data on this Regiment:

http://www.ww2.dk/ground/ln/lghol.html

However, it seems there never was a IV. Abteilung and V. Abteilung was renamed II./Ln.-Rgt. 211 in fall 1941, III. Abteilung was incorporated into Ln.-Abt. beim Wehrmacht-Befehlshaber Niederlande in fall 1942, I. Abteilung was incorporated into Ln.-Abt. 63 during the second half of 1943 and II. Abteilung was incorporated into I./Ln.-Rgt. Reich in fall 1944. So, from fall 1944 to the end of the war Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. Holland no longer existed.

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Re: Luftnachrichten Truppen

Postby Bob Lyons » 16 Feb 2017 01:37

An interesting Wehrpass that was posted by "Goss" on the War Relics forum, I thought the pages may be of interest here too....

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