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Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

Post by Jford99 » 29 Nov 2023 02:51

I’m fairly new to this forum. I began researching my German grandfather’s wwii service. We were provided some information from Berlin. His years of service were listed as 1939-1943. He was in the 2 Kompanie Bau Bataillon 3/XIII. We were also told he was a POW. This matches the story from my aunt who told us was sent to Oklahoma after being captured in 1943 or 1944. My mother also has photos of him on Guernsey that are dated 1941. We also believe that with what little information we found regarding these construction battalions that his may have been in Italy in 1943. I also have his Iron Cross 2nd Class medal, which I was told is a rare occurrence for someone in a construction battalion. I’m hoping to find more information about his unit and where he served and was captured. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

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Post by Larry D. » 29 Nov 2023 15:55

A little bit more:

Luftwaffen-Bau-Bataillon 3/XIII

22 Jan 44: Btl. unloaded (from train) in Firenze (Florence). By 24 January, 4. Kp. had moved north to Bologna with Stab Lw.-Bau-Btl. 6/VII.

[Source: BNA HW 5/427]

**Note: I have quite a bit more on 3/XIII but it's on 5"x 8" index cards locked up in a general contractor's warehouse. My house was burned out by an electrical fire on 26 March this year and while all of my books, microfilms, photocopies, notes, etc., survived the fire, the contractor hauled everything salvageable off to the warehouse to be treated for toxic smoke damage. It may be next May or June before I get them back.

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Post by Larry D. » 29 Nov 2023 16:32

...........and some more -

Luftwaffe in the Channel Islands:

Guernsey (FR/GB) (49 26 10 N – 02 36 05 W)
General: landing ground on the isle of Guernsey in the British Channel
Islands off the coast of Normandy; landing ground located 5.25 km SW of
St. Peter Port and 1.6 km in from the coast. History: a former airport, it
was mainly used by the Luftwaffe as a forward base for staging fighter and
reconnaissance missions against England during 1940 and early 1941.
Surface and Dimensions: damp grass surface that was usually camouflaged
in a patchwork pattern that blended in with the surrounding countryside.
Measured approx. 730 x 615 meters (800 x 670 yards) with an irregular
shape. No paved runway. Fuel and Ammunition: Small ammunition
dumps were located in the North dispersal area and off the W end of the
landing area. A third may have been in the SE corner near the hangars.
Infrastructure: there were 2 small hangars and a few buildings at the SE
corner. Personnel were mainly accommodated in the surrounding towns
and villages. Dispersal: had 2 dispersals – North Boundary and West
Boundary – with a total of 15 large covered aircraft shelters. Defenses:
there were some 6 heavy and 16 light Flak positions within 3.5 km of the
landing ground in late Jul 43. Ground defenses included reinforced
strongpoints on the coast just S of the landing ground and barbed wire
entanglements around the Flak positions.
Remarks:
20 Apr 41: employed 95 non-German workers.
7 Nov 42: landing area seen to be temporarily obstructed for extended
periods.
7 Jun 43: leveling work to extend the E boundary of the landing area was
underway.
14 Jan 44: an extension of the landing area that now provides a takeoff/landing run of 1145 meters (1250 yards) has been completed and is now
serviceable.
3 May 44: landing area observed to be temporarily obstructed but a narrow
E/W strip has been left clear.
Operational Units: none identified.
Station Commands: as Fl.Pl.Kdo. Guernsey (of Fl.H.Kdtr. E 61/XIII
Morlaix?) (Apr 41); Fl.Pl.Kdo. A 10/XII (Jan 43 – Jun 44).
Station and Island Units (on various dates – not complete): General der
Luftwaffe Kanalinseln (Oct 43 – May 45); Stab/11. Flak-Brig. (Apr-Oct 43);
Stab/Flak-Brig. XII (Oct/Nov 41 – Mar 43); Stab/Flak-Rgt. 39 (1941 – Feb
43); elements of I./Flak-Rgt. 9 (gem. mot.) (1940); elements of gem.FlakAbt. 124 (Sep 41 – mid-43); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 152 (Oct 41 – Feb
43); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 292 (Oct 41 – May 45); elements of
Res.Festungs-Flak-Abt. 311(v) (Aug 40); half of Res.Flak-Abt. 441 (Nov 41 –
Apr 42); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 493(v) (May 43); elements of le.FlakAbt. 978 (1941-42); Feld-Flakinstandsetzungswerkstatt (mot) z.b.V. 2
(1943-44); Flak-Waffenwerkstatt (o) 9/XII (1943-44); FlakGeräteausgabestelle (o) 107/XII (1943); 14.(Flum.Mess)/Ln.-Rgt. 53 (1943-44); 22.(schw.Flum.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. Westfrankreich (c.1941 – Dec 42);
elements of Ln.-RV-Betr.Personal-Kp. z.b.V. 3 (1942 – Jun 44); Lw.-Feldbauamt Kanalinseln (c.1940-43); Lw.-Bau-Btl. 9/XVII (Nov 41 – Mar42); Munitionsausgabestelle d.Lw. 27/XII (1944).
[Sources: AFHRA A5259 pp.1640-42 (20 Aug 43 updated to 3 May 44) and
A5260 pp.2025-27 (20 Aug 43 updated to 14 Jan 44); chronologies; BA-MA;
NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]

Although Lw.-Bau-Btl. 3/XIII is not listed, it might have been here in 1940-41 and then relieved/replaced by Lw.-Bau-Btl. 9/XVII. I have a similar listing like this for Jersey, but 3/XIII is not shown there either. The Lw.-Bau personnel here built positions for the large array of Flak guns brought to the islands and did construction work at the airfield, e.g., improved the runway, put up additional buildings, bunkers and other defensive works around the perimeter, strung barbed wire, etc.

L. deZ.

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Re: Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

Post by Jford99 » 29 Nov 2023 18:45

Larry D, thank you so much for the information. I’m sorry to hear about your house. I would love to receive whatever further information you have regarding 3/XIII whenever possible. This has been an almost two year journey finding information and I’ve hit a dead end lately. Thanks again!

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Post by Jford99 » 29 Nov 2023 23:06

Thank you for this info. I do know that he was on Guernsey in 1941. We have a photo of him at the chapel. Maybe he was transferred to 3/XIII from Guernsey? I’m not really sure if that would’ve been possible. Again, thank you and I really look forward to any other information you might have in the future. I’m trying to learn as much as I can about my relatives who fought in WWII.
Larry D. wrote:
29 Nov 2023 16:32
...........and some more -

Luftwaffe in the Channel Islands:

Guernsey (FR/GB) (49 26 10 N – 02 36 05 W)
General: landing ground on the isle of Guernsey in the British Channel
Islands off the coast of Normandy; landing ground located 5.25 km SW of
St. Peter Port and 1.6 km in from the coast. History: a former airport, it
was mainly used by the Luftwaffe as a forward base for staging fighter and
reconnaissance missions against England during 1940 and early 1941.
Surface and Dimensions: damp grass surface that was usually camouflaged
in a patchwork pattern that blended in with the surrounding countryside.
Measured approx. 730 x 615 meters (800 x 670 yards) with an irregular
shape. No paved runway. Fuel and Ammunition: Small ammunition
dumps were located in the North dispersal area and off the W end of the
landing area. A third may have been in the SE corner near the hangars.
Infrastructure: there were 2 small hangars and a few buildings at the SE
corner. Personnel were mainly accommodated in the surrounding towns
and villages. Dispersal: had 2 dispersals – North Boundary and West
Boundary – with a total of 15 large covered aircraft shelters. Defenses:
there were some 6 heavy and 16 light Flak positions within 3.5 km of the
landing ground in late Jul 43. Ground defenses included reinforced
strongpoints on the coast just S of the landing ground and barbed wire
entanglements around the Flak positions.
Remarks:
20 Apr 41: employed 95 non-German workers.
7 Nov 42: landing area seen to be temporarily obstructed for extended
periods.
7 Jun 43: leveling work to extend the E boundary of the landing area was
underway.
14 Jan 44: an extension of the landing area that now provides a takeoff/landing run of 1145 meters (1250 yards) has been completed and is now
serviceable.
3 May 44: landing area observed to be temporarily obstructed but a narrow
E/W strip has been left clear.
Operational Units: none identified.
Station Commands: as Fl.Pl.Kdo. Guernsey (of Fl.H.Kdtr. E 61/XIII
Morlaix?) (Apr 41); Fl.Pl.Kdo. A 10/XII (Jan 43 – Jun 44).
Station and Island Units (on various dates – not complete): General der
Luftwaffe Kanalinseln (Oct 43 – May 45); Stab/11. Flak-Brig. (Apr-Oct 43);
Stab/Flak-Brig. XII (Oct/Nov 41 – Mar 43); Stab/Flak-Rgt. 39 (1941 – Feb
43); elements of I./Flak-Rgt. 9 (gem. mot.) (1940); elements of gem.FlakAbt. 124 (Sep 41 – mid-43); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 152 (Oct 41 – Feb
43); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 292 (Oct 41 – May 45); elements of
Res.Festungs-Flak-Abt. 311(v) (Aug 40); half of Res.Flak-Abt. 441 (Nov 41 –
Apr 42); elements of gem.Flak-Abt. 493(v) (May 43); elements of le.FlakAbt. 978 (1941-42); Feld-Flakinstandsetzungswerkstatt (mot) z.b.V. 2
(1943-44); Flak-Waffenwerkstatt (o) 9/XII (1943-44); FlakGeräteausgabestelle (o) 107/XII (1943); 14.(Flum.Mess)/Ln.-Rgt. 53 (1943-44); 22.(schw.Flum.)/Luftgau-Nachr.Rgt. Westfrankreich (c.1941 – Dec 42);
elements of Ln.-RV-Betr.Personal-Kp. z.b.V. 3 (1942 – Jun 44); Lw.-Feldbauamt Kanalinseln (c.1940-43); Lw.-Bau-Btl. 9/XVII (Nov 41 – Mar42); Munitionsausgabestelle d.Lw. 27/XII (1944).
[Sources: AFHRA A5259 pp.1640-42 (20 Aug 43 updated to 3 May 44) and
A5260 pp.2025-27 (20 Aug 43 updated to 14 Jan 44); chronologies; BA-MA;
NARA; PRO/NA; web site ww2.dk]

Although Lw.-Bau-Btl. 3/XIII is not listed, it might have been here in 1940-41 and then relieved/replaced by Lw.-Bau-Btl. 9/XVII. I have a similar listing like this for Jersey, but 3/XIII is not shown there either. The Lw.-Bau personnel here built positions for the large array of Flak guns brought to the islands and did construction work at the airfield, e.g., improved the runway, put up additional buildings, bunkers and other defensive works around the perimeter, strung barbed wire, etc.

L. deZ.

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Re: Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

Post by Larry D. » 29 Nov 2023 23:51

Maybe he was transferred to 3/XIII from Guernsey?
That is entirely possible. Many Lw.-Bau units and personnel were transferred from France, Belgium and Holland to Russia in 1941 to support the advance into the USSR. Field airstrips had to be built behind the advancing ground forces as they pushed eastward through Ukraine and Belorussia (Belarus). By the end of 1941, there was only a comparatively small force of Luftwaffe Bau units remaining in the West.

L. deZ.

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Re: Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

Post by Jford99 » 30 Nov 2023 16:46

I came across a website with pdf files about all the Luftwaffe’s airfields throughout Europe, Africa and Russia/Baltics. Did you create these files? The detail of these are amazing.
Larry D. wrote:
29 Nov 2023 23:51
Maybe he was transferred to 3/XIII from Guernsey?
That is entirely possible. Many Lw.-Bau units and personnel were transferred from France, Belgium and Holland to Russia in 1941 to support the advance into the USSR. Field airstrips had to be built behind the advancing ground forces as they pushed eastward through Ukraine and Belorussia (Belarus). By the end of 1941, there was only a comparatively small force of Luftwaffe Bau units remaining in the West.

L. deZ.

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Re: Looking for information regarding grandfather service in Bau Bataillon

Post by Larry D. » 01 Dec 2023 13:28

Jford -

Yes, the 'Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-1945" is my work. also, "Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries" on the same website:

www.ww2.dk

L. deZ.

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