How should i distinguish Bf109Gs?

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How should i distinguish Bf109Gs?

Post by grunherz » 29 Jul 2003 12:57

there are many different subtype of Bf109Gs.ie G-2,G-6,G-10,G14....
but how can i distinguish them from the appearence?

i think the different of 109A,B,C D,E,F are easy to distinguished. but i met some trouble when i see a G's photo.

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GUs

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Post by MadderCat » 29 Jul 2003 15:12

Hi

the different G-marks can be distinguished by the engine,
used tail (wooden, metal, raised tail wheel, normal tail wheel),
fuselage guns (up to G-5 mostly 7,8mm, G-6 till the last versions 13mm
with a bulge on both sides of the cowling more or less pronounced,
hence the german name "Beule" (buckle in english)),
small or large bulbs on the wings for the wheels were spread
over different marks
later in the war there was a mix of components in the different
marks due to production problems and other things

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Post by Tim Smith » 29 Jul 2003 15:38

Bf 109G's (nickname: Gustavs) can also be distinguished from earlier versions by their lack of quarterlight panels in the canopy.

Very crude 109 canopies!

A-F canopy:

/--|--|--/
|\_|__|/


G canopy:

/--|--|--/
\_|__|/



The earlier F version and the later K version both had retractable tailwheels, but the Gustavs didn't.

I think 'Beule' actually meant 'boil' in English, not 'buckle'. The bulges looked like boils on the fuselage.

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Post by grunherz » 29 Jul 2003 18:36

Thx for all ur great answers.
Now i am clear.


Gus

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Post by MadderCat » 29 Jul 2003 19:12

hi

here's an link which could maybe help You a little bit more
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

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Post by Erich » 30 Jul 2003 05:23

how about purchasing the best reference available ?

Dr. Jochen Prioen/Peter Rodeike's Messerschmitt Bf 109 F,G and K series

208 pages, many photos, some in colour, drawings. All explanations of the variants described.

Schiffer Publications 1993, ISBN # 0-88740-424-3

If you are serious about the Bf 109 then you cannot go without this incredible volume.

Horrido !

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Post by Aufklarung » 30 Jul 2003 05:36

Hi
G-12 had two seats and a longer canopy!!
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bf109g12fw_1.htm

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 01 Aug 2003 22:13

Tim Smith wrote:Bf 109G's (nickname: Gustavs) can also be distinguished from earlier versions by their lack of quarterlight panels in the canopy.

Very crude 109 canopies!

A-F canopy:

/--|--|--/
|\_|__|/


G canopy:

/--|--|--/
\_|__|/



The earlier F version and the later K version both had retractable tailwheels, but the Gustavs didn't.

I think 'Beule' actually meant 'boil' in English, not 'buckle'. The bulges looked like boils on the fuselage.
The Galland cockpit was not a std. ordnance applied to a certain type of Gustav or Karl. Also some Karls adopted it. Italian RSI pilots refused the Galland's because it was too expensive and it was more easy to replace broken little panels than wide ones. And the dioctric performances of german made plastics was not as good as allieds' canopies: the images deflected thru them were too much deformed during close air formation.
The same thing but at the contrary has to be considered for buckles on the wings: synthetic rubber low pressure tyres developed on russian front were larger than previous ones and it was an easy job to retrofit the wheels and the upper wing "bulged" panel. White low-pressure flat synthetic tyres were usual ordnance at the end of WW2. Another fine element was the lower round turnable UHF antenna: only well trained interceptors were able to follow the latest Freya and Wurzburg aided ground guidance networks and generally only the latest Gustavs and Karls had it. About the latest straight tail rudder, i am sure that latest G-12s an Karls had it. RSI 109s retrofitted that straight rudder on their latest Gustavs: it was easier to replace if damaged while fighting.

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