Bombing of Moscow

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Bombing of Moscow

Post by varjag » 03 Oct 2003 11:08

Some Soviet sources (never noted for accuracy) claim the the Luftwaffe launched heavy bombing raids against Moscow early in the Russo-German war. There's supposed to have been a 250 sortie effort on 22nd of July 1941 and between July and December 1941 something like 122 raids involving about 7146 sorties which equals an average of some 80 a/c in each - hardly heavy bombing, but nonetheless a major effort. Same sources claim that Moscow air defences (some 1000 fighters, 1000 searchlights, a similar number of heavy AA-guns and a few radar stations) diverted or deflected 50 - 90% of the attackers and claimed they suffered something of the order 10% losses for their troubles. Can anyone on the forum amplify on LW bombing of Moscow, sorties, tonnage dropped over target, losses for the first 6 months of the war, i.e. 6/41-12/41?

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Post by Ostuf Charlemagne » 05 Oct 2003 03:32

Hi Varjag : One of the most early bombing of Moskau was performed by a croatian squadron.

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Post by varjag » 05 Oct 2003 12:35

Thanks Ostuf for your response. Can you elaborate on the Croatian Squadron; dates, aircraft type, tonnage dropped etc.? Thanks in reply, Varjag

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Post by daveh » 05 Oct 2003 23:13

there is something here that might interest you

http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/bc-rs/raid.html

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Post by varjag » 06 Oct 2003 12:50

daveh wrote:there is something here that might interest you

http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/bc-rs/raid.html
Thanks Daveh for that link - some very useful info, varjag

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Post by Ostuf Charlemagne » 07 Oct 2003 03:16

Hi Varjag.....thanks for the reply !

I find your info :

It was the 15.(Kroatisches) Staffel belonging to german KG 53 squadron.
Planes were Dornier Do-17. They were engaged many times over Moskau.

In 1944 ,the croatians air units (it existed also the 15.Jagdstaffeln (Kroat.)
of JG 52 - Me 109- ) comebacked to Croatia and engaged against Tito's
strongpoints.
I have some pics of 15/KG 53 in the eastern Front,if it may interest you ?

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Post by varjag » 07 Oct 2003 05:46

Thank you Ostuf for that snippet. So 15/KG 53 was a Croatian unit - very interesting to learn that they were employed against Moscow. Don't worry about the pictures for now. The bergstrombook link reports KG 53 in action over Moscow in late July -41. Have u any dates for employment of the Croatian 15th Staffel against that target? Rgds, varjag

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Post by Ostuf Charlemagne » 08 Oct 2003 03:49

I'm afraid this is all i have ! But on the pics some are taken in summer,so it may match with these dates !?

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Post by varjag » 09 Oct 2003 12:41

Ostuf Charlemagne wrote:I'm afraid this is all i have ! But on the pics some are taken in summer,so it may match with these dates !?
Ostuf - it just seems that Croatia, that only fell under German domination in spring 1941 - could rally a bomber-staffel a few months later? Besides, the Do 17 was at that time still a 'first-line' bomber type. Such types were rarely allocated to 'satellite forces'. That's why I asked about the dates - have a feeling that trained Croatian crews would not have been available until earliest 1942 - and then, the Do 17 was old enough to be deployed by 'the valuable allies' like Croatians. The Germans were big on rethoric but lean on the quality of the material they supplied to their allies.

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Post by Ostuf Charlemagne » 10 Oct 2003 01:26

Yes,you may be right,the pic may be from summer 1942....Now they participate in the Winterschlacht,since lots of these pilots arbored the Ostmedaille...... so far i don't think it was something really wonderful about the Do-17 :wink:

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