Sirens on Ju 87s and other aircraft

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Sirens on Ju 87s and other aircraft

Post by daveh » 05 Jan 2004 16:40

What was the origin of the idea of fitting sirens to the Ju 87?
Were any other WW2 aircraft fitted with these or similar devices?

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Post by Douglas Jr. » 05 Jan 2004 16:50

Hi,

It is commonly said that it was Hitler himself that had the idea to put the sirens (some says whistle) in the Stuka. It was used for the first time during the Polish Campaign.

However, by early 1942 all those sirens had been removed.

Hope it helps,

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Post by gavmeister13 » 05 Jan 2004 22:48

why did they remove the sirens? i thought they were good for scaring the enemy when the stuka dived?

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Post by redcoat » 05 Jan 2004 23:36

gavmeister13 wrote:why did they remove the sirens? i thought they were good for scaring the enemy when the stuka dived?
The sirens affected the aircrafts performance, it made a slow aircraft even slower.
After 1940 when the sky's became a lot less safe for Stuka's they were a luxury they could no longer afford to carry.

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Post by moses » 06 Jan 2004 22:26

i'm curious about the second part of dave's question..

did any other planes have such sirens?

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Post by R-Bob The Great! » 07 Jan 2004 06:34

I thought it was an idea of Ernst Udet the stunt flyer who loved the dive bomber so much because of his flying background. seems fitting to his personality.

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Re: Sirens on Ju 87s and other aircraft

Post by Toomas » 07 Jan 2004 14:21

daveh wrote:What was the origin of the idea of fitting sirens to the Ju 87?
Were any other WW2 aircraft fitted with these or similar devices?
I believe it was Udet who suggested that, at least G.Knopp in his book "Hitler's warriors" states that. (quite bad book by the way)

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Sirens

Post by Douglas Jr. » 07 Jan 2004 15:00

Hi folks,

I´m not at home now, so my books are out of reach. I´ll check who was the sirens idea´s author and solve this quaestion later today. But I have the strong feeling that it was Hitler...

On the other hand, I don´t remember any other aircraft that was equiped with sirens.

Douglas.

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Post by gabriel pagliarani » 07 Jan 2004 16:39

Exactly wondering 180° backwards, does anyone know about intruders equipped with silencers and/or flame-suppressors fitted at the end of the exhaust-pipes? Much more useful devices than sirens 8)

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Post by craigob » 07 Jan 2004 16:40

the sirens were nicknamed the "Trumpets of Jerico" due to the horror they would bring :)

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Post by Erich » 08 Jan 2004 06:03

Bf 109G-6's with JG 300 were equipped with whistles at night for Flak identification.

Yes the Bf 110G-4 and Ju 88 series of night fighters had flame dampners.

Also in 1945 many of the cannon and protective night fighter mg's had flash hiders

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