Bf 110 model identification

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Robert Hurst
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Bf 110 model identification

Post by Robert Hurst » 19 Mar 2004 14:49

Hi

I would be most grateful if anyone can help me with the identification of the specific Bf 110 model depicted in the two attached pics. The Bf 110s belong to a Zerstorer-Erganzungsstaffel.

The two pics were taken from Luftwaffe Airfield Equipment, by Joachim Dressel & Manfred Griehl.

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Post by Erich » 19 Mar 2004 16:37

Robert the time frame is winter of 1943-1944 during the intense aerial battles over the Reich. Both pics show Bf 110G-2's with the forward firing armament of 6 2cm weapons. Two 20mm in the upper nose showing the "long rods", two 20mm's in the lower nose and two additional 20mm in an underfuselage weapons pod. It was not typical to carry 6 weapons but four. This latter being the weapons pod installation and two in the lower nose. The upper cannon ports were many times faired or plugged over.

The Bf 110G-2's are from ZG 76 with a yellow rumpfband.

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Post by Erich » 19 Mar 2004 16:39

one other note, some of the upper noses of the units Bf 110's have the two 3cm weapons installed..........

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 20 Mar 2004 08:44

Erich,
on the first picture, it's the plane in the background (no barrels exceeding the upper nose and an differentely shaped upper muzzle hole) equipped with 2x 30mm MK108, if that's what you mean...
The pod under the fuselage is the modification M-1 (like Me 110 G-2/M-1), carriying 2x 20mm MG 151/20. AFAIK the M-1 pod was only seldomly used (too much weight and drag)
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Post by Erich » 20 Mar 2004 15:22

Chris:

Yes the 3cm in the upper nose was not used that much on the day time destroyers as the 2cm would suffice. Actually the under the fuselage 2cm weapons pod was standard equipment in ZG 1, ZG 26 and ZG 76 along with the lower nose configuration I mentioned. It was better for pilot visibility not to have the upper nose guns even in daylight.........note too the Wgr 21 launchers under the outter wings. 8)

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 21 Mar 2004 09:23

Eric,
thank you for correction. I qouted the pod being seldomly used, but had the nightfigter Me 110 G4 in mind. There they were seldom, because of the mentioned reasons.

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