Another emblem...Jagdgeschwader 5?

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Another emblem...Jagdgeschwader 5?

Post by Christoph Awender » 30 Jul 2002 11:17

Hi!

Again a emblem question.
The following photo shows some Kübelwagen of a Luftwaffe unit.
The caption says that it is with Jagdgeschwader 5 in Norway 1944. The emblem which is partly visible on the right does not look like any to me known emblem of JG5. It more looks like a parachute emblem of one of the Fallschirmjäger units.

Any comments wether JG 5 had such a emblem etc...?

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Post by Harri » 30 Jul 2002 11:58

I see an emblem with "Laplander's boot over a Finnish flag" (blue cross on a white background), I think? It is a Gruppe emblem of JG 5, but I can't remember which one (II or III Gruppe, can someone help me?)

From what book this photo was scanned?

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emblem..

Post by Christoph Awender » 30 Jul 2002 12:14

Thanks Harri!

The foto is from a Waffen-Arsenal magazine about Kübelwagen.
I don´t know the emblem you mentioned either... where did you see it?

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Re: emblem..

Post by Harri » 30 Jul 2002 13:39

Christoph Awender wrote:I don´t know the emblem you mentioned either... where did you see it?


It is anyway an emblem of the unit of JG 5 which was in Northern Finland and Norway during the war. I'm now sure about that.

Actually I didn't recognize the emblem at first but when I looked again a few minutes later I saw the marks of this rather unusual German emblem I described above. It just hit me like a lightning. :lol: Hopefully someone will scan a complete emblem and post it in here for you.

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emblem....

Post by Erich » 30 Jul 2002 17:24

The emblem is for III./JG 5 on the Bf 109 F and G variants.... 8)

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Post by Christoph Awender » 30 Jul 2002 18:17

Thanks Erich! Do you have a image of it somewhere?

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Post by Erich » 30 Jul 2002 18:36

:wink: Yes, I do, it is in an old Emblems book by Karl Ries. Wish I had a scanner....... :(

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Post by Harri » 31 Jul 2002 09:16

I can confirm it is III Gruppe / JG 5. Here is the emblem in miniature:
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Post by Requin Marteau » 31 Jul 2002 10:20

Emblems JG 5 :

JG 5 "Eismeer" : seen in Norway at the beginning of 1945 (Fw 190),

I./JG 5 : end of 1941, inherited the I./JG 77 (BF 109 E & F),

II./JG 5 : raised by the 6./JG 5, winter 41-42 until spring 1944, before becoming that of the 14./JG 4 with the autonme 1944 (BF 109 F & G),

5./JG 5 : beginning summer 1942 (BF 109 E),

III./JG 5 : may 1942-may 1945,

7. (Z)/JG 5 : carried originally by the 1.(Einsatz)/EJG3, taken again as from December 1941 (BF 109 F),

8./JG 5 : beginning 1942 (BF 109 F & G),

10.(Z)/JG 5 - 13.(Z)/JG 5 : spring 1942, the 10.(Z)/JG 5 was made up in January 1942 starting from the 1.(Z)/JG 77 before becoming the 13.(Z)/JG 5 at the summer 1942 (BF 110 E, F & G),

14.(J)/JG 5 : February 1943 (Fw 190 A).
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emblem...

Post by Christoph Awender » 31 Jul 2002 12:14

Hi all!

Thanks to all for the help.... should look first at my own site if it concerns emblems. I have it already but didn´t remember. Well at the moment I have more than 1800 emblems online :-)

Thanks again,
Christoph

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II./JG 5 abzeichen......

Post by Erich » 31 Jul 2002 16:03

Christoph :

You might find this interesting.......the II./JG 5 symbol, the Cloverleaf was taken by the units members when they became the Bf 109G-14 and G-10 equipped IV./JG 4 in the fall of 1944. Not all the Bf 109's of JG 4 wore this unit emblem though.

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