It's hard to tell from the pics, but does this look like a Me108 to you?
EDIT: Pics taken down. Thanks guys for the help.
Does this look like a Me108 to you?
Does this look like a Me108 to you?
Last edited by Director on 18 Jun 2004, 03:23, edited 1 time in total.
Hello.
Yes, found on http://www.airwar.ru/other2/bf108.html
Yes, found on http://www.airwar.ru/other2/bf108.html
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No, but maybe from 2 miles away
Look here:
http://www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com/b ... 8_0754.jpg
Dan Mouritzsen
No, but maybe from 2 miles away
Look here:
http://www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com/b ... 8_0754.jpg
Dan Mouritzsen
While looking round the link Dan Mouritzsen gave, I found even more pics of the plane which is a bf108, but this site has pics named as Me108!
I'm guessing who ever named the files is wrong?
http://www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com/A ... 2page3.htm
Check the last 5 of the bottom row...
I'm guessing who ever named the files is wrong?
http://www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com/A ... 2page3.htm
Check the last 5 of the bottom row...
Me or Bf 108
Hello.
At the beginning the Messerschmitt were built at the Bavarian Aircraft Works at Ausbourg,the Bayerishe Flugzeugwerke,hence the term "Bf"
for the aircrafts originally built produced there.
After, as the the Messerschmitt society grow and more aircraft were built in other works, they were named with the term Me .
Cheers Patrice
At the beginning the Messerschmitt were built at the Bavarian Aircraft Works at Ausbourg,the Bayerishe Flugzeugwerke,hence the term "Bf"
for the aircrafts originally built produced there.
After, as the the Messerschmitt society grow and more aircraft were built in other works, they were named with the term Me .
Cheers Patrice
Patrice wrote:
How do you guys tell the difference? You guys must have kind of sixth sense!
Does anyone here know if the fighter planes in 'von Ryan's express' are Me108/bf108's? It looks like they fire rockets at the railway tracks, did they have these?
So in short, they are the same plane? Except that they were made in different years and locations?Is this right?At the beginning the Messerschmitt were built at the Bavarian Aircraft Works at Ausbourg,the Bayerishe Flugzeugwerke,hence the term "Bf" for the aircrafts originally built produced there.
After, as the the Messerschmitt society grow and more aircraft were built in other works, they were named with the term Me.
How do you guys tell the difference? You guys must have kind of sixth sense!
Does anyone here know if the fighter planes in 'von Ryan's express' are Me108/bf108's? It looks like they fire rockets at the railway tracks, did they have these?
My tuppence worth to the 'Me' and/or 'Bf' debate. I may be an older (please read more experienced...) aircraft-nut than most of the forumners. I knew my Messerschmitt's - long before William Greens first books appeared about 1955-56? He as I recall it, was the first writer that brought to light the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke Bf designations and he did a good job - because the confusion has reigned ever since. However in German wartime publications Messerschmitts aircraft were invariably refered to as Me's. I had never heard or read the term Bf before William Green published it. I have also in younger years had the pleasure of listening to and speaking to former German pilots, they always reffered to their mounts as 'meine Me, meine He, meine Focke, meine Ju u.s.w.
Me or Bf 108
Hello.
1926:Bayerishe Flugzeugwerke(Bavarian Aircraft Works or BFW)formed.
Messerschmitt Fluzeugbau also established.
1927:Bavarian government forces Messerschmitt and BFW to merge.
1938:BFW changes it's name to Messerschmitt AG.
The aircraft developed afterward use the "Me" prefix.
The Bf 108,Taifun was developed before 1938 so the first models produced had the Bf prefix as the first models of 109 developed and producted in 1935.
So most of the airplanes made by Messerscmitt were with the prefix Me.
Cheers Patrice.
1926:Bayerishe Flugzeugwerke(Bavarian Aircraft Works or BFW)formed.
Messerschmitt Fluzeugbau also established.
1927:Bavarian government forces Messerschmitt and BFW to merge.
1938:BFW changes it's name to Messerschmitt AG.
The aircraft developed afterward use the "Me" prefix.
The Bf 108,Taifun was developed before 1938 so the first models produced had the Bf prefix as the first models of 109 developed and producted in 1935.
So most of the airplanes made by Messerscmitt were with the prefix Me.
Cheers Patrice.
Re: Me or Bf 108
Not quite. All Messerchmitt 108, 109 and 110 models had the shortening Bf. All Messerchmitt 210, 410 and Gigant models had shortening Me. Finnish Air Force bought Messerchmitt 109G-2s and G-6s from Germany in 1943 and 1944 and they all were desingned as Bf. So, Messerschmitt Bf 108 is the only correct possibility if we use the whole official name of the aircraft.Patrice wrote:1938:BFW changes it's name to Messerschmitt AG.
The aircraft developed afterward use the "Me" prefix.
The Bf 108,Taifun was developed before 1938 so the first models produced had the Bf prefix as the first models of 109 developed and producted in 1935.
So most of the airplanes made by Messerscmitt were with the prefix Me.
The confusion is perhaps due to the war-time shortenings used: i.e. "Me 109" etc. which I think is quite correct because "Bf 109" would perhaps be confusing. That same concerns also their engines but vice versa: correct name is for example "Mercedes-Benz DB 605A". All engines produced by Daimler-Benz were officially named as "Mercedes-Benz"s (like they still are today) but due to abbreviation "DB" they were called "Daimler-Benz"s because only the text "DB 605A" was painted on engines.
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Coming late to this, but noone answered the question....
No, they weren't Bf/Me108s in"von Ryan's Express"...
The POSTWAR Messerschmitt Taifun - a very slightly altered 108 - was the first civilian aircraft produced by the company after the war when they got permission to do so from the Allies. It was rushed out to break into the fast-growing small private aircraft market post-war. Its VERY commonly used in feature films as a German fighter because its planform is SO similar at a distance or in a very short sequence to a Bf109....but the dead giveaway is in a head-on shot when the big propeller spinner is missing, and its impossible to disguise the wide side-by-side cockpit LOL But the reason its ALSO used is it could be bought/rented new or second-hand with VERY few flying hours on them, regular civilian maintence, and absolutely no tempremental reliability problems keeping an OLD thoroughbred fighter aircraft in the air LOL JUST what a film director/producer wants - money savings!!!
No, they weren't Bf/Me108s in"von Ryan's Express"...
The POSTWAR Messerschmitt Taifun - a very slightly altered 108 - was the first civilian aircraft produced by the company after the war when they got permission to do so from the Allies. It was rushed out to break into the fast-growing small private aircraft market post-war. Its VERY commonly used in feature films as a German fighter because its planform is SO similar at a distance or in a very short sequence to a Bf109....but the dead giveaway is in a head-on shot when the big propeller spinner is missing, and its impossible to disguise the wide side-by-side cockpit LOL But the reason its ALSO used is it could be bought/rented new or second-hand with VERY few flying hours on them, regular civilian maintence, and absolutely no tempremental reliability problems keeping an OLD thoroughbred fighter aircraft in the air LOL JUST what a film director/producer wants - money savings!!!