Heinkel_He162_Salamander

kobold · Post by **kobold** » 11 Aug 2002 11:51

Never seen this plane before...

Dave

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 11 Aug 2002 11:54

There are two articles on this site about the He162:
http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/equip ... el-162.htm
http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/youth ... -he162.htm

/Marcus

kobold · Post by **kobold** » 11 Aug 2002 12:05

Thanks Marcus.

I also have this one of an assembly line of them...

varjag · Post by **varjag** » 11 Aug 2002 13:16

Yep Kobold - these were 'The Volkssturm of the Air'.

Intended to be flown by keen Hitlerjugend with an A-certficate on
GLIDERS!
Of all the screwball ideas of the 'Gotterdammerung' this one just about
takes the price!
Apart from braking up in the air with one or two German test-pilots
the unanimous opinion of those where that the 'Salamander' required
a VERY experienced pilot to fly at all.
They say that 'desperate times breed desperate ideas' and no better
illustration can be given of this, than the pictures you posted.

Christian Ankerstjerne · Post by **Christian Ankerstjerne** » 11 Aug 2002 13:19

I do think it resembles the A-10 to some extent - the back-mounted jet and the folded wings, for instance...
Also the cannon under the nose...

Christian

Erich · Post by **Erich** » 11 Aug 2002 20:05

Yeah right it was ! A piece of junk and a huge danger to fly. Took out several notables of Jg 1 at the end of the war due to flying accidents. Possibly score two vitories, still un-confirmed.....

April 13, 45 Uffz. Friedrich Enderle of I./JG 1 KIA in He 162 100 %
April 18, 45 Fw. Günther Kirchner of 3./JG 1 KIA in He 162 100 %
April 24, 45 Hptm. paul Dähne of II./JG 1 KIA in He 162 100% over Warnemünde
April 30, 45 Lt. Alfred Dürr of 6./JG 1 KIA in He 162 due to emergency landing of fuel shortage on autobahn north of Danischburg near Lübeck.

further losses....

April 11, 45 I./JG 1 ? Mann missing lfying He 162
April 18, 45 I./JG 1 ? Hartung KIA flying He 162
April 23, 45 I./JG 1 ? Ackermann KIA flying He 162
April 25, 45 I/JG 1 Uffz. Gerhard Steiner wounded flying He 162
? Ofw. Karl Beck of II./JG 1 flying He 162 KIA emergency landing due to fuel shortage near Leck
? Fw. Jupp Gold of II./JG 1 flying He 162 KIA
? Uffz. Stelter of II./JG 1 flying He 162 KIA flying error caused the crash over Marienehe.

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kobold · Post by **kobold** » 12 Aug 2002 14:48

thanks for the information everyone.

dave

Topspeed · Post by **Topspeed** » 20 Jun 2004 10:23

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:I do think it resembles the A-10 to some extent - the back-mounted jet and the folded wings, for instance...
Also the cannon under the nose...

Christian

Well that is not really enuf, then you could say also Mustang looks like a Lagg-3..engine on the front straight wings..tailwheel..propellor etc...some meters in the cockpit... radiator below...control column...windscreen...s..t the Lagg-3 does start to look like a Mustang..doesn't it ?

PanzerPeter · Post by **PanzerPeter** » 02 Oct 2006 21:14

Hello Kobold
this particular plane ist the one, now standing in Hendon aircraft museum, England. It was repainted to this colours in the 70's at St.Athan (Whales). The colours are not absolutely correct.

Peter
http://www.historyfacts.biz

Simon Gunson · Post by **Simon Gunson** » 19 Oct 2006 05:37

From a pilot's perspective this aircraft had way too small a wing surface. Undoubtedly assisting high speed, but helluva dangerous on approach to land.

I gather they were wooden construction too. I imagine the wings folded under High G manouveres. With a powerful jet engine getting into a high G situation wuld not be difficult.

A third issue might be the tailplane not having clear airfow, but the anhedral of the tail might have helped slightly.

Y Ddraig Goch · Post by **Y Ddraig Goch** » 19 Oct 2006 17:46

Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:I do think it resembles the A-10 to some extent - the back-mounted jet and the folded wings, for instance...
Also the cannon under the nose...

Christian

Purely coincidental, stay with your tanks

Simon Gunson · Post by **Simon Gunson** » 19 Oct 2006 21:39

Not necessary to be so hostile Madcap.

Christian's observation is not unreasonable. There is a similarity. Of course they're far from identical. Form follows fuction if you put an engine high over the fuselage you need that tail design.

Mathias J · Post by **Mathias J** » 05 Nov 2006 14:29

There's one exception in the miserable failure of the He-162, it's considered to be the first operational aircraft with an ejection seat! Thus a milestone in aviation.

http://users.bestweb.net/~kcoyne/he162seat.htm

Ome_Joop · Post by **Ome_Joop** » 08 Nov 2006 19:20

Mathias J wrote:There's one exception in the miserable failure of the He-162, it's considered to be the first operational aircraft with an ejection seat! Thus a milestone in aviation.

http://users.bestweb.net/~kcoyne/he162seat.htm

I thought that honor went to the He-219?

http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/milestone ... t_hist.htm

Universal the God of War · Post by **Universal the God of War** » 09 Nov 2006 01:14

a he-162 pilot claimed he achieved an aerial victory in a he-162 is this true ?

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