Jet Engines - who was really the first?

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Jet Engines - who was really the first?

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Post by Karl » 12 Aug 2002, 12:15

Ok, the Me 262 made it’s first flight on 4th of April 1941 (262V1 on Jumo 210 Piston engine), the 262V3 on Jumo 004-0 Turbojets on 18th July 1942 and eventually, after countless snags, the production aircraft was delivered in July 1944. This was about 9 days after the British Meteor was introduced.

Although the Me 262 packed a bigger punch, was faster and was produced several times over the Meteor, who in your opinion, was the FIRST to use jet engines successfully?

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Post by oscar » 12 Aug 2002, 12:34

First german jet-plane flew in 1939. Becouse the war was thougth to be short there was no need for development of jet-planes,
konservative officers didn´t speed up the development either.


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Post by Oberst Mihael » 12 Aug 2002, 23:58

The question that's really gonna bother you when you leave the forum is, did they serve steaks or wursts at the Wannsee conference... :mrgreen:

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Post by Karl » 13 Aug 2002, 02:04

Oberst Mihael wrote:The question that's really gonna bother you when you leave the forum is, did they serve steaks or wursts at the Wannsee conference... :mrgreen:
Eh? :roll:

So, it was the Germans who flew the first jet, but the allies who brought out the first production model. Before last week, I never heard of the Meteor.

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Post by TonyG » 13 Aug 2002, 07:34

who in your opinion, was the FIRST to use jet engines successfully?
Heinkel IMHO was the first to use the Jet engine successfully

Heinkel entered the field of jet propulsion through his acquaintance with the physicist Robert Pohl of the University of Gottingen. Professor Pohl had a graduate student, Hans von Ohain, who had invented a jet engine. It didn't work very well, but Pohl recommended Ohain to Heinkel, who hired him. With support from Heinkel, Ohain built a jet that ran successfully in March 1937. Two years later, he had one with twice as much thrust. Heinkel installed it in the He 178, which flew in August 1939. It was the world's first jet plane.

Heinkel also built the world's first jet fighter: the He 280. It first flew in April 1941, and went on to achieve a top speed of 578 miles per hour (930 kilometers per hour) and altitude of 49,200 feet (14,996 meters).


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Post by Caldric » 13 Aug 2002, 08:55

Dr. Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle are recognized as the co-inventors of the jet engine. Each was working separately and knew nothing of the others work. Although Whittle started first, von Ohain was first to design and develop a turbojet engine to power an aircraft.

Of the many honors received by both, the most significant honor was probably "The Charles Draper Prize" in 1992 which was given to both Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle for their efforts and contributions to aviation and mankind. "The Charles Draper Prize" is recognized as the equivalent to the Nobel Prize in technology.
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Doctor Hans Joachim Pabst von Ohain was a German airplane designer, who invented an operational jet engine. Ohain obtained his doctorate at the University of Göttingen in Germany. He was the junior assistant to Hugo von Pohl, director of the Physical Institute at the University. German aircraft builder Ernst Heinkel asked the university for assistance in airplane design and Pohl recommended his star pupil Ohain.
born: Dec. 14, 1911 , Dessau, Germany
died: March 13, 1998, Melbourne, Fla., U.S.


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Sir Frank Whittle was an English aviation engineer and pilot, the son of a mechanic, Whittle joined the Royal Air Force or RAF as an apprentice. He later became a pilot after training at the RAF College, Cranwell. He joined an RAF fighter squadron in 1928. The young RAF officer was only 22 when he first thought to use a gas turbine engine to power an airplane.
born: June 1, 1907, Coventry, Warwickshire, England
died: Aug. 8, 1996, Columbia, Md., U.S.




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Re: Jet Engines - who was really the first?

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Post by Cantankerous » 17 May 2020, 22:45

Given that Nazi Germany beat the UK to the punch in getting a jet plane into the sky despite Frank Whittle building the first jet engine, was Hans Pabst von Ohain aware of Frank Whittle's work on jet engines or did he come up with his own idea for how to make a jet engine?

Although the Heinkel He 280 did made its first flight under jet power in March 1941, the maiden flight of the He 280 actually took place on September 22, 1940 in glider form, the ballasted pods hung under the wings in the shape of the jet engines. So even if the He 280 waited until early 1941 to receive jet engines, it still was the first jet fighter to fly.

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 20 May 2020, 04:48

Oberst Mihael wrote:
12 Aug 2002, 23:58
The question that's really gonna bother you when you leave the forum is, did they serve steaks or wursts at the Wannsee conference... :mrgreen:
& serving which ends the war faster?

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Post by stivemorgan » 21 May 2020, 09:23

Hi everyone. Very interesting question. As I know Germans were the first but it is a history and some information can be wrong.

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