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Me-163B, Me-262B-1a/U1

Post by Chaser » 29 Aug 2004 19:09

Hi guys.
A few days ago i bought one book, in that book i found these two strange planes:Me-163B Comet-1 and the other one is Me-262B-1a/U1,
it said in the book that these two planes were "extraordinary" in one way or another in the German Air Force.
Now, my question is: Is there anyone who heard about these two planes,
if anyone did hear about them please reply.

P.S
I will send pics of these two planes as soon as i will be able to.


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Post by bryson109 » 29 Aug 2004 19:50

The Me 163 and Me 262 were both very advanced for thier time.

The Me163 was a rocket powered interceptor.
http://www.sml.lr.tudelft.nl/~home/rob/me163.htm

While the Me-262B-1a/U1 was an interim night fighter. The 262 B-1 was the two seat trainning version of the 262 and the /U1 was the modification to the nighter fighter role. the Me-262B-1a/U1 was designed to fill the night fighter role untill a purpose built me 262 night fighter could be brought into serive.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me262.html

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Thank you very much

Post by Chaser » 30 Aug 2004 14:17

Thank you very much bryson 109...




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Post by Erich » 30 Aug 2004 15:54

our book "Moskito-jagd über Deutschland will cover the service career of the Me 262B-1a/U1 in 10./NJG 11.

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Post by rusty » 03 Sep 2004 00:27

bryson109 wrote:The Me 163 and Me 262 were both very advanced for thier time.

The Me163 was a rocket powered interceptor.
http://www.sml.lr.tudelft.nl/~home/rob/me163.htm

While the Me-262B-1a/U1 was an interim night fighter. The 262 B-1 was the two seat trainning version of the 262 and the /U1 was the modification to the nighter fighter role. the Me-262B-1a/U1 was designed to fill the night fighter role untill a purpose built me 262 night fighter could be brought into serive.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me262.html
first voice. i didn't knew that there was two-seated me262.

and, yes, it was magnificent aircraft, an revolution in aircraft history. nobody did so much for weapon technologyas germans did in ww2, accept americans with a-bomb, but it was anyway done with german "brains".

chester: you've just discovered me163 and me262, but what will u say when you'll se an lippisch dm1 and heinkel he162?
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Post by rusty » 03 Sep 2004 00:46

here are some pictures for u chester...

lippisch dm1 first delta wing aircraft

http://www.cals.lib.ar.us/miller/images/LIP_DM1.jpg

heinkel 162 one of first fsw (forward swept wing) technology aircraft wit jet engine. i think that junkers build also fsw plane years ago before he162

http://www.hut.fi/~andres/gifs/he162fsw.jpg

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Me-163B...

Post by Grünherz » 03 Sep 2004 04:03

rusty wrote:
heinkel 162 one of first fsw (forward swept wing) technology aircraft wit jet engine. i think that junkers build also fsw plane years ago before he162]
I don't think that a 162 ever flew with a forward-sweep wing. Maybe I'm wrong but I think, although there were designs for these aircraft (in other types as well), they never flew. In fact, experimental designs in the U.S. based on this concept have never worked out...too much "torque" twisting of the wing or whatever.
The only 162's (built) that I know of had a straight leading-edge design; not even swept-back.
Tom

Wait, I correct myself...the Ju-287. OK, not successful.

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Thanks

Post by Chaser » 03 Sep 2004 16:55

Thank you guy for the info, especially to Rusty for "Discovering" for me the 2 planes...


P.S
Oh and rusty, just for the record...
My name is Chaser not Chester

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Post by rusty » 05 Sep 2004 23:10

tscrawford: ok, if u don't belive me...

http://www.kheichhorn.de/html/body_heinkel_he_162.html - deutsch

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histor ... He-162.htm - english

pictures and text...
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Re: Me-163B...

Post by rusty » 06 Sep 2004 00:07

tscrawford wrote:
rusty wrote:
heinkel 162 one of first fsw (forward swept wing) technology aircraft wit jet engine. i think that junkers build also fsw plane years ago before he162]
I don't think that a 162 ever flew with a forward-sweep wing. Maybe I'm wrong but I think, although there were designs for these aircraft (in other types as well), they never flew. In fact, experimental designs in the U.S. based on this concept have never worked out...too much "torque" twisting of the wing or whatever.
The only 162's (built) that I know of had a straight leading-edge design; not even swept-back.
Tom

Wait, I correct myself...the Ju-287. OK, not successful.
oh, here u are with ju287 info...

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histor ... Ju-287.htm


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me-163, etc...

Post by Grünherz » 06 Sep 2004 01:59

Hello Sven,
My original response was regarding a 162 with forward-sweep wings. I have never seen a picture of a flying one. Certainly there were plans and designs (as I said) but did one actually fly? I don't think so.
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Re: me-163, etc...

Post by rusty » 06 Sep 2004 14:04

tscrawford wrote:Hello Sven,
My original response was regarding a 162 with forward-sweep wings. I have never seen a picture of a flying one. Certainly there were plans and designs (as I said) but did one actually fly? I don't think so.
Tom
well, visit then links above, you'll see them "in the air"...

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Re: me-163, etc...

Post by Grünherz » 07 Sep 2004 08:52

rusty wrote:
tscrawford wrote:Hello Sven,
My original response was regarding a 162 with forward-sweep wings. I have never seen a picture of a flying one. Certainly there were plans and designs (as I said) but did one actually fly? I don't think so.
Tom
well, visit then links above, you'll see them "in the air"...
I'll take another, closer look. Thanks for the info! :)
Tom

later...I don't yet find the photos you refer to. I saw the drawings and what appears to be a model with swept-forward wings but nothing in the air. Maybe I'm just dense. Are you sure that you aren't refering to the straight leading-edge versions?? Please redirect me to the correct photographs.

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Post by Jurrie » 07 Sep 2004 11:41

Euu. rusty...on the first link of the He-162 I see a lot of pics, but not one with FORWARD swept wins flying...:|

And the second is only 2 pics...or am I blind 8O

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Post by Topspeed » 07 Sep 2004 21:28

Jurrie wrote:Euu. rusty...on the first link of the He-162 I see a lot of pics, but not one with FORWARD swept wins flying...:|

And the second is only 2 pics...or am I blind 8O

Jurrie
If that is the Salmander; they all had forward sweep.

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