He 177/277

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Roddoss72
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Re: He 177/277

Post by Roddoss72 » 24 Jul 2010 13:42

Just a query, the last photo of the He 277, does it have the same engines as the B-29, they look familiar, also is the aircraft in French Markings.

Whatever the situation it looks a damn fine aircraft.

Also if anyone sees this, it looks to me an aircraft the USA would have done.

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Re: He 177/277

Post by Ome_Joop » 24 Jul 2010 16:11

The He 274 were built in France during the war (like so many aircraft) and finnished after the war by the French.

They indeed somewhat look like Wright R-3350's and probably like any other radial which they (DB603 were Inline V12 engines) were not! but those are not so rounded (and missing the intake).
They could have changed the engines (or did the AAS01A had different engines vs the AAS01B)
(have to check Heinkel He 177, 277, 274: Eine luftfahrtgeschichtliche Dokumentation if there is anything about that in it).

Compare
http://www.aeropedia.be/birds/usaaf/b-29-2.jpg

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attach ... 1139936383
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attach ... 1140118768

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53746

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7862 ... rehein.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4292/0 ... 0ysom2.jpg

http://www.zonamilitar.com.ar/foros/sho ... 99&page=15

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Re: He 177/277

Post by Simon Gunson » 24 Jul 2010 23:33

I have openly stated that it was photoshopped so as not to deceive anybody. It is ment only to illustrate and inform.

To the best of my knowledge* the He 274 prototypes used DB 603A engines with Bosch TK11 turbosuperchargers which then became designated DB 603S. They had annular (ring) shaped radiators making them appear like radial engines. The French had a deal of reliability problems with them. I gather these engines had 40 hours TBO.

*(Ottomotoren mit Direkteinspritzung: Verfahren, Systeme, Entwicklung, Potenzial Edited by Richard van Basshuysen, Ulrich Spicher, 2009)

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Re: He 177/277

Post by Ome_Joop » 25 Jul 2010 10:05

I have openly stated that it was photoshopped so as not to deceive anybody. It is ment only to illustrate and inform.
I noticed but i thought these were better.

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Re: He 177/277

Post by Simon Gunson » 25 Jul 2010 14:08

Ome_Joop wrote:
I have openly stated that it was photoshopped so as not to deceive anybody. It is ment only to illustrate and inform.
I noticed but i thought these were better.
Yes much appreciated thanks. Some of the French experiences with the He 274 are hard to come by so photos are a bonus. I wanted to create a website on the He 274 / He 277 and needed some illustrations of the He 277 B-5.

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Re: He 177/277

Post by Cantankerous » 03 Sep 2019 01:48

Simon Gunson wrote:
25 Jul 2010 14:08
Ome_Joop wrote:
I have openly stated that it was photoshopped so as not to deceive anybody. It is ment only to illustrate and inform.
I noticed but i thought these were better.
Yes much appreciated thanks. Some of the French experiences with the He 274 are hard to come by so photos are a bonus. I wanted to create a website on the He 274 / He 277 and needed some illustrations of the He 277 B-5.
More photos of the He 274 are available at:
https://www.facebook.com/ww2aircraft/ph ... 457526918/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/331929435022678028/

"Heinkel He 277B-5" is an invention by past aviation historians for the Heinkel He 177B, which had four separately arranged engines in contrast to the baseline He 177. The Heinkel He 277 was indeed derived from the He 177 and had the same number of engines as the He 177B, but differed in having a bigger wingspan and a glazed nose section similar to that of the Bristol Blenheim. Info about the He 277 is found at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_277

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