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Ju 390 Help!

Post by Ulver » 20 Oct 2004 20:48

plz anybody care to shed some light here?

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Post by Stormbird » 20 Oct 2004 22:41

Its one Big ass plane :lol:
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Post by Ulver » 20 Oct 2004 23:48

I've noticed! but why create this monster while Ar 234 could do the job 10 times better?

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Post by Lkefct » 21 Oct 2004 00:39

I think the idea was to bomb NYC from France.

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Post by king_nothing » 22 Oct 2004 20:02

Love shooting them out of the sky on SWON and also the Daimler-Benz Project B, how many flyable ones were actually made?

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Post by Ulver » 23 Oct 2004 11:52

I think only 2 types were built and flown.. I guess
btw, which fighter do you use to shoot'em down? and are they equiped with all 7 guns?

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Post by Simon Gunson » 19 Oct 2006 22:13

Author and Janes Defence Weekly writer Nick Cook claimed to me that he knows a Polish diplomat who after the war witnessed a Ju-390 being dismantled in Uraguay.

There is huge debate many stating there was only ever one bulit. Others believe that one operated from Mont de Marsan, whilst another was used for testing in Czechoslovakia. There were intended to be three prototypes.

After the war Reichs Armaments minister Albert Speer claimed a Ju-390 flew to Tokyo in the hands of a test pilot, via the "polar route."
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Post by dabbydo » 19 Oct 2006 22:32

Lkefct wrote:I think the idea was to bomb NYC from France.


Here is a link with more info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_390

It seems that Germany never realised the potential of strategic bombing until too late and then overcompensated with monsters like this, the failed He-177, and other nonsense.

David :)

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Post by TonyC » 20 Oct 2006 19:58

Forgive me, but I thought the Ju 390 was built as a transport... hence the Trapoklappe loading ramp... ;-)

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Post by dabbydo » 20 Oct 2006 21:29

TonyC wrote:Forgive me, but I thought the Ju 390 was built as a transport... hence the Trapoklappe loading ramp... ;-)

Tony


Right! And wrong! See the above link I posted. It states the Ju-390 was supposed to be a transport, patrol, and bomber aircraft. Sort of a "Jack of all trades, master of none" if you ask me!

David :)
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Post by Simon Gunson » 20 Oct 2006 21:36

Probably the answer is it was intended for a transport, but evaluated from Mont de Marsan as a long range bomber/maratime patrol aircraft.

I have never seen photos of the Ju-390 with the kind of gun turrets, or positions one would see on an intended bomber.

Luftwaffe General Hans Bauer wrote in memoirs after the war that right up to 30 April 1945, he could have flown Hitler anywhere in the world. The Ju-390 was a particular favourite of Bauer's according to Albert Speer.

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Post by dabbydo » 20 Oct 2006 21:42

Kiwikid wrote:Probably the answer is it was intended for a transport, but evaluated from Mont de Marsan as a long range bomber/maratime patrol aircraft.

I have never seen photos of the Ju-390 with the kind of gun turrets, or positions one would see on an intended bomber.

Luftwaffe General Hans Bauer wrote in memoirs after the war that right up to 30 April 1945, he could have flown Hitler anywhere in the world. The Ju-390 was a particular favourite of Bauer's according to Albert Speer.


A lot of this is covered in the link I posted, as I'm sure it is on other sites as well. One can only imagine the changes in history if Germany had a heavy startegic bomber in 1941!

David

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Post by TonyC » 22 Oct 2006 16:39

Hi David,

I have Chris Sweetings' book "Hitler's Squadron" but there is no mention of the Ju 390... can you tell me where I can read more of Hans Baur's memories? I have looked at the link you posted.

I am not doubting what you write but am looking for more reading matter on this area of interest!

Cheers,

Tony

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Post by dabbydo » 22 Oct 2006 19:58

TonyC wrote:Hi David,

I have Chris Sweetings' book "Hitler's Squadron" but there is no mention of the Ju 390... can you tell me where I can read more of Hans Baur's memories? I have looked at the link you posted.

I am not doubting what you write but am looking for more reading matter on this area of interest!

Cheers,

Tony


I don't have any specialized information on the Ju-390, but you can find a lot of sites on Google. You may find something of interest on this link which has dozens of aviation sites. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/aircraft.html

David :)

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Post by TonyC » 22 Oct 2006 21:47

Hi David,

I wondered if you have any suggestions for Hans Baur in particular - I understand there is an autobiography but they aren't always that useful...

Have you found anything of particular interest in this area?

Be Well,

Tony

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