NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

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NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by SES » 24 Jun 2005 06:46

Hi all,
Based on new and re-evaluated old information I have updated the location of these 2 HQs. I have great difficulties finding additional information on Fliegerhorst Seewiesen and specific info about the actual location and type of construction for the GefStds. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/bunkers%20Jafu%20OP.htm and
http://www.gyges.dk/bunker%20NJRF%20112.htm
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by SES » 04 Dec 2008 13:47

Hi,
A rather old post, but I have not come an inch closer, so any help would be appreciated.
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by SES » 18 Jun 2011 19:44

A small step for mankind, but a giant leap for me. The Gef.Std. of Jafü Ostpreussen has finally ben pin pointed.
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http://www.gyges.dk/Gefechtsstand%20bun ... u%20OP.htm
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by jopaerya » 18 Jun 2011 21:39

Hi SES

Only six years ( 2005 till 2011 ) waiting on a lifetime , great find 8O my compliments .

Regards Jos

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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by Larry D. » 19 Jun 2011 01:00

SES - The nearest Luftwaffe Fliegerhorst was Königsberg-Gutenfeld:

Gutenfeld (GER) (a.k.a. Königsberg-Gutenfeld) (54 40 30 N – 20 38 40 E)
General: Einsatzhafen 12 km ESE of Königsberg in East Prussia. Grass surface. Luftpark located there.
Air Units: (go to Google and enter: Gutenfeld site:ww2.dk ).
School Units: Arbeitsplatz for LKS Fürstenfeldbruck/LKS 4 (Königsberg-Neuhausen) (Nov 39 – Aug 40); Schule/FAR 53 (Nov 39 – Mar 41); Fl.Ausbildungs-Rgt. 53 (1940-41); Fliegerschule d.Lw. (S) 91940 – Jun 41); FFS A/B 122 (Mar 41); Arbeitsplatz for FFS A/B 51 (Elbing) (1942-43).
Station Commands: Fl.H.Kdtr. A Gutenfeld (1941-42); Fl.H.Kdtr. A(o) 5/I (Apr 44 – Feb 45).
Kommandant: Obstlt. Felix Wendler (24 Aug 42 - 21 Nov 42);
Station Units (on various dates): Werft-Abt. 106/I (Dec 44); Werft-Kp. 34 (c.Mar-Jul 41); Nachschub-Kp. d.Lw. 15/III ( ? – Aug 41); Trsp.Kol. d.Lw. 116/VI ( ? – Aug 41); Umrüstungskommando Ju 188 (Apr – Sep/Oct 44);
On 17 Dec 41: Luftpark Gutenfeld (later Luftpark 1/XI) (c. 1938-45); Lufttanklager Löwenhagen.

If you use the coordinates in Google Earth you can clearly see the old airfield and all of the military-style buildings around it. Seewiesen was never an airfield according to my information. The only things that were ever listed for Seewiesen were Ln. units.

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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by SES » 19 Jun 2011 08:17

jopaerya wrote:Hi SES

Only six years ( 2005 till 2011 ) waiting on a lifetime , great find 8O my compliments .

Regards Jos
Hi Jos,
Thank you, but without generous friends this would never have happened.
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen

Post by SES » 19 Jun 2011 08:19

Hi Larry,
Thanks a lot. I have also been advised from another source, that there never was an airfield at Seewiesen.
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by jvmasset » 22 Jul 2011 13:21

Hello!

About Königsberg, I did not know Königsberg-Gutenfeld airfield...that would make it the fourth airfield of Königsberg after Devau, Jesau and Neuhausen then...Note that the bombing traces are very much obvious and the locations of the large hangars are well visible (their apron and bases are still there); the firing butts are also well visible, and some of the buildings (the smaller ones to the south in the wood covered area) are original 1930, but the big ones if probably military are definitely from post-war times (logistical depots for russian army?)

The location SES has found for Jafü OstPreussen is still well visible on Google Earth; there are traces of excavations, and visibly there is a use as gravel pit or something...

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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by SES » 04 Apr 2012 17:26

Hi,
Thanks to a newly found Russian friend, it is now possible to show pictures from the location:
http://www.gyges.dk/Gefechtsstand%20bun ... u%20OP.htm
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by jopaerya » 05 Apr 2012 08:40

Hello SES

Again a very nice found , the foundations of a Casar bunker 8O

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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by SES » 05 Apr 2012 09:15

Hi Jos,
Yes indeed. Two sources claim that there was a bunker, and from the excellent book “Wir Stegskopfer” I know that Ln personnel was actually posted to serve in Löwenhagen. BTW it was this info that was instrumental in finally pinning down the location.
So my theory is that the bunker was demolished by the Soviets, and the state of the foundation indicates to me, that the bunker cannot have been made of concrete.
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by ultrazak » 23 Jan 2023 12:49

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Satellite image from earthexplorer.usgs.gov.
1970 and 1975, as well as a satellite image from historical images from Google Erth, 2007
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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by ultrazak » 23 Jan 2023 13:01

Nearby there are the remains of an outpost and 5 adits, of which 4 have no entrances, but traces of them are visible from the surface and theoretically they can be excavated.
Photo here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kER8EdGBdnEsCDKv5.
Instructions on how to view photos from a shared album in Google Photos, geo-referenced (photo map): https://youtu.be/kiSshIEj9eo

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Re: NJRF 112 and Jafü Ostpreußen.

Post by ultrazak » 23 Jan 2023 13:13

Photos from Devau: https://photos.app.goo.gl/J7diZRKxHQuxrUpb6
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Map 1976, map 1945, aerial photograph 1945, satellite image 1966
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