Which ground attack aircraft would you pick?

Discussions on all (non-biographical) aspects of the Luftwaffe air units and general discussions on the Luftwaffe.
Post Reply
User avatar
Robb
Member
Posts: 2633
Joined: 07 Jun 2005, 15:19
Location: Brisbane Australia

#16

Post by Robb » 03 Nov 2005, 12:38

IMAD is right about the Stuka being vulnerable to fighter opposition. I was unaware that it was actually used in the West in the AT role. I'd be surprised with the overwhelming aerial superiority of the Western Allies if the Ju-87 wasn't withdrawn from service.

Thanks to Tony and Martti for the update on the Shturmovik's armament.

Regards from Downunder Robb
Top
User avatar
Tim Smith
Member
Posts: 6177
Joined: 19 Aug 2002, 13:15
Location: UK

#17

Post by Tim Smith » 07 Nov 2005, 18:58

Didn't the late-war Stukas fly mainly at night? That's how the Ju87G could have survived against Allied air superiority in the West.
Top
Top
Mangrove
Member
Posts: 2030
Joined: 25 Dec 2004, 02:33

#18

Post by Mangrove » 07 Nov 2005, 21:11

Tim Smith wrote:Didn't the late-war Stukas fly mainly at night? That's how the Ju87G could have survived against Allied air superiority in the West.
At least Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew in daytime in 1944/1945. Althought he changed his Ju-87 to FW-190D in 1945...

Martti
Top
Tony Williams
Member
Posts: 1360
Joined: 18 Feb 2004, 05:31
Location: UK
Contact:
Contact Tony Williams

#19

Post by Tony Williams » 07 Nov 2005, 21:33

Not very easy to spot tanks at night...

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
Top
Gearhead1432
Member
Posts: 210
Joined: 20 Nov 2004, 12:18
Location: USA

#20

Post by Gearhead1432 » 08 Nov 2005, 07:35

I would go with the Ju87G.

If I am not mistaken the only aircraft to score more tank kills was the AH64 in the Gulf War.

Fighter bombers at the time were no where near as good at precision bombing as aircraft such as the Ju87.

Rob
Top
Tony Williams
Member
Posts: 1360
Joined: 18 Feb 2004, 05:31
Location: UK
Contact:
Contact Tony Williams

#21

Post by Tony Williams » 08 Nov 2005, 07:46

Gearhead1432 wrote:If I am not mistaken the only aircraft to score more tank kills was the AH64 in the Gulf War.
I doubt that very much, given the number of Il-2s and their use in the anti-tank role over several years. Although I don't believe the undoubtedly inflated Soviet claims, I think they probably killed far more tanks than anything else. In comparison, there weren't that many Ju-87Gs, and there was only one Rudel.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
Top
looma
Member
Posts: 14
Joined: 21 Nov 2005, 11:43
Location: Philippines

#22

Post by looma » 21 Nov 2005, 12:33

i like d IL-2
Its got High calibre 37 or 23mm cannons
4 rocket rails
and those PTAB thingies
and its armoured
Top
User avatar
Roddoss72
Member
Posts: 1367
Joined: 21 Jul 2005, 06:44
Location: Australia

#23

Post by Roddoss72 » 24 Nov 2005, 03:45

Me i would go for the Ju-87 no particular reason i just love the bloody thing it looks agressives and it has that whailing dohicky thinngy, gotta love those factory add ons, anyway more seriously, other than that the Ju-88G-1 (i could be wrong on the actual designation) with the PAK 75mm Anti tank gun.
Top
Kosmo
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: 04 Nov 2005, 10:16
Location: Bucharest

#24

Post by Kosmo » 30 Nov 2005, 11:56

Ju 87 is my choice. No point having fighter abilities in a special role plane.
Precision is more important then the heavy load of rockets that have little chance of hitting anything.

In regards of the number of tank kills: IL-2 had problems in finding targets (and when finding in killing them) something very easy for Ju 87.
Top
Tony Williams
Member
Posts: 1360
Joined: 18 Feb 2004, 05:31
Location: UK
Contact:
Contact Tony Williams

#25

Post by Tony Williams » 30 Nov 2005, 12:27

Kosmo wrote:Ju 87 is my choice. No point having fighter abilities in a special role plane.
Precision is more important then the heavy load of rockets that have little chance of hitting anything.
That depends on whether you are facing fighter opposition. The Luftwaffe switched to the Fw 190 for ground attack later in the war because the Ju 87 were getting slaughtered by fighters.
In regards of the number of tank kills: IL-2 had problems in finding targets (and when finding in killing them) something very easy for Ju 87.
What is your source for that claim?

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
Top
User avatar
Imad
Member
Posts: 1412
Joined: 21 Nov 2004, 04:15
Location: Toronto

#26

Post by Imad » 03 Dec 2005, 22:09

Kosmo wrote:Ju 87 is my choice. No point having fighter abilities in a special role plane.
Precision is more important then the heavy load of rockets that have little chance of hitting anything.

In regards of the number of tank kills: IL-2 had problems in finding targets (and when finding in killing them) something very easy for Ju 87.
Could you elaborate on that last statement?
imad
Top
Jakub Tomek
Member
Posts: 132
Joined: 20 Aug 2005, 11:30
Location: Czech Republic

#27

Post by Jakub Tomek » 04 Dec 2005, 17:10

Hs 129B-3, equipped with 75 mm BK 7.5 cannon. All in all 25 planes were produced.
Top
Horst_Wessel
Member
Posts: 3
Joined: 02 Jan 2006, 05:57
Location: indonesia

#28

Post by Horst_Wessel » 07 Jan 2006, 13:19

Hi,,

I'm a new guy here...

I prefer Typhoon since it kills my favorite tank ace, Michael Wittmann..
Top
Mangrove
Member
Posts: 2030
Joined: 25 Dec 2004, 02:33

#29

Post by Mangrove » 07 Jan 2006, 17:28

Horst_Wessel wrote: I prefer Typhoon since it kills my favorite tank ace, Michael Wittmann..
According to the newest researches, Michael Wittmann was killed by british Fireflies from Northamptonshire Yeomanry.

Martti
Top
User avatar
Ome_Joop
Member
Posts: 783
Joined: 10 May 2004, 16:56
Location: Noordwijk(erhout)

#30

Post by Ome_Joop » 07 Jan 2006, 20:07

Horst_Wessel wrote:Hi,,

I'm a new guy here...

I prefer Typhoon since it kills my favorite tank ace, Michael Wittmann..
Normaly one would hate something that killed ones favorite :?
Top
Post Reply

Return to “Luftwaffe air units and Luftwaffe in general”