Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

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Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

Post by MAX_theHitMan » 26 Dec 2005 01:08

Does anyone have some more info and pictures on this "flying elephant"?

I´m helping out a friend who has got this rare model and needs more info.
Unfortunately I can´t find nothing in my Luftwaffe books about this one.

Here´s some info on it.
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/JUNKER ... utPage.htm

It says it was "almost" able to carry a tank.BUT which type of tank? A small one or a large type III, or IV.?
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Post by Ome_Joop » 26 Dec 2005 09:34

a tank that weighs less than 20 ton...

http://www.geocities.com/hjunkers/ju_ju322_a1.htm

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut&quo

Post by Mangrove » 26 Dec 2005 20:09

MAX_theHitMan wrote: It says it was "almost" able to carry a tank.BUT which type of tank? A small one or a large type III, or IV.?
Must be a bigger tank than this thought? :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TB-3

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Post by Davide Pastore » 26 Dec 2005 22:00

Martti Kujansuu wrote: Must be a bigger tank than this thought? :o
Probably at least as big as the one below.
(It is just my impression, or the "cut" in the rear left fuselage seems curved in the wrong way?)

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Post by Latimer » 27 Dec 2005 00:16

Considering the gigant could take a 38T I would suspect it could take more as there wasn't much point in developing something new when something already existed

Photo from DVD "The German War Files - German Support aircraft and gliders of ww2" from Artsmagic
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Post by Ome_Joop » 27 Dec 2005 02:48

The Me-321 was the counterpart of the Ju-322...development occured at the same time!

The German occupation of England was planned as the "Operation Seelowe" in 1940. The planning for this attack was dropped, when it became obvious, that Germany had no sufficent transport capacity by air, that could support the landing zones of the German army. Due to that fact, the RLM placed a request for a wide body transport glider to Messerschmitt and Junkers under the project name "Warschau" in summer 1940. Messerschmitt started the developement of the Me 321 (Warschau Sued), while Hertel designed the EF94 (Warschau Ost).

from above posted websource!

BTW is your aircraft a Me-321 or a 323? it looks like a 321 (the glider)!

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Post by Latimer » 27 Dec 2005 05:06

The pic is the Me321 glider version
Should really of read everything before commenting
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Post by MAX_theHitMan » 29 Dec 2005 01:46

Thanks for the great help guys *two thumbs up*

I was thinking also of a T-38 tank or perhaps a panzerkampwagen type 2,
as it seems to be the less heavier from the rest, and would make for a better airborne tank.

It seems like a very futuristic looking airplane, in my opinion, for that time.
Unfortunatly it wasn´t too fly-worthy.
Those wacky guys from the Luftwaffe were always coming up with some radical new ideas for their time. :)




Thanks everyone.

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

Post by Cantankerous » 30 Oct 2019 04:59

There's additional pics of the Ju 322 Mammut glider at this link:

https://www.plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/ju-322-mammut/

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

Post by Cantankerous » 07 Aug 2020 01:55

MAX_theHitMan wrote:
26 Dec 2005 01:08
It says it was "almost" able to carry a tank.BUT which type of tank? A small one or a large type III, or IV.?
Military vehicles carried by the Ju 322 included either a Panzer IV, a Flak 88, a Half-Track or a self propelled gun.

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

Post by Cantankerous » 07 Aug 2020 01:58

There's a permanent link regarding the Ju 322 Mammut glider:

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/glider/ju322.html (includes a photo of the camouflaged Ju 322)

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut&quo

Post by Cantankerous » 07 Aug 2020 02:09

Mangrove wrote:
26 Dec 2005 20:09
MAX_theHitMan wrote: It says it was "almost" able to carry a tank.BUT which type of tank? A small one or a large type III, or IV.?
Must be a bigger tank than this thought? :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TB-3

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There were a number of airborne trials involving the TB-3 to test the notion of using TB-3s to carry T-27, T-37, and T-38 tanks to war zones. The Panzer IV was heavier than the T-27, T-37, and T-38 tanks, so the Ju 322 could carry large tanks.

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Re: Extra Rare Mammoth ~ The Junkers JU-322 "Mammut"

Post by Cantankerous » 07 Aug 2020 02:16

The Ju 322 design reminds me of two pre-WW2 Junkers design, the J1000 and the Junkerissime (see http://www.histaviation.com/ju_j1000.html and https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thread ... sime.5965/). Why did the Junkers company choose to forgo a tube-and-wing layout in favor of a lifting body design for its giant airlifter design, even though the Ju 52, Ju 252, and Ju 352 were tube-and-wing designs?

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