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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 27 Jul 2019 17:05

Over the past few weeks I gathered quite a lot of new awards updates for the Admirals. Here they are.

1) Thanks to new photographic evidence, for Admiral z.V. Eugen Lindau viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2179747&hi ... u#p2179747 please add:
-Schlesischer Adler-Orden II. und I. Stufe mit Schwertern
-Baltenkreuz II. und I. Klasse
Add both of these awards below the Marineverwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz (1918).

2) For Vizeadmiral Albrecht Freiherr von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181213&hi ... g#p2181213
Delete the Rechtsritter des Königlich Preußischen Johanniter-Ordens (or possibly the Souveräner Malteserorden, grade unknown) and replace it with Ehren- und Devotionsritter des Souveränen Malteserordens (Grade not 100% confirmed) (write the text in the bracket in red like this).

3) Thanks to new photographic evidence, for Vizeadmiral Werner Löwisch viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182560&hi ... h#p2182560 please add:
-Medaille zur Erinnerung an die Heimkehr des Memellandes (add this award at the bottom of his list)

4) For Konteradmiral z.V. Ernst Hintzmann viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2187554&hi ... n#p2187554
Replace the Großherzoglich Hessische Tapferkeitsmedaille (not confirmed) with Herzoglich Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse (not confirmed) (write the text in the bracket in red like this).

5) For Vizeadmiral Werner Lange viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182482&hi ... e#p2182482
Add: -Ehren-und Erinnerungskreuz des Marinekorps Flandern (below the U-Bootskriegsabzeichen (1918))
Add the date (01. 04. 1937) after his Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse
Add the date (08. 05. 1942) after his Flottenkriegsabzeichen
Change the date of his Deutsches Kreuz in Gold to 07.01.1944

6) Thanks to new photographic evidence, for Char. Vizeadmiral Hans Kolbe viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182100&hi ... e#p2182100 add:
-Großoffizierskreuz des Portugiesischen Ritterordens von Avis (Class not 100% confirmed) (write the text in the bracket in red like this).

7) For Vizeadmiral Hellmuth Heye viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181535&hi ... e#p2181535
Delete the 2 * after his awards and all the text at the bottom of his list.
Update the bracket after his Komturkreuz des Königlichen Ordens der Krone von Italien like this: (29. 09. 1937, Approved on 13. 12. 1937, Awarded on 02. 08. 1938)
Change the date of his Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse to (11. 02. 1939)
Add: -Königlich Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille 1915/1918 (06. 02. 1942) (add this award below the Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse). The source for this award is the document (see photo below).
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8) Thanks to new photographic evidence, for Admiralarzt Dr. med. Walther Goette viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2193265&hi ... e#p2193265 add:
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Deutsches Sportabzeichen

Add all 3 awards at the bottom of his list.

9) For Großadmiral Karl Dönitz viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2177961&hi ... z#p2177961
Change the date of his Gemeinsames Flugzeugführer- und Beobachterabzeichen in Gold mit Brillanten to (30. 01. 1943)
Also, delete the bracket "(I also found the date 30. 01. 1943., could this be the correct day/month?)"
See the proof below (courtesy of luftk).
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10) For Vizeadmiral Leopold Bürkner viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181077&hi ... r#p2181077
Add the date (00. 01. 1916) after his Herzoglich Anhaltisches Friedrich-Kreuz

11) For Generaladmiral Otto Schniewind viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2178331&hi ... d#p2178331
Change the Königlich Spanisches Marineverdienstkreuz III. Klasse in Weiß to Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Ordens für Verdienste zur See mit Weiß Verliehen (the date stays the same, 21. 08. 1939)
See the proof below, Schniewind's awards in a museum display.
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12) For Großadmiral Dr. phil. h.c. Erich Raeder viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2177906&hi ... r#p2177906
Add: -Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Militärverdienstorden mit Weiß Verliehen (01. 01. 1941) (add it below the Großkreuz des Königlich Schwedischen Schwertordens)
The source is Manfred Dörr: "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Deutschen Wehrmacht 1939-1945 / Die Überwasserstreitkräfte der Kriegsmarine, Band 2, L-Z".

13) For Vizeadmiral August Thiele viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184571&hi ... e#p2184571
Delete the * after his Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse (05. 03. 1937), also delete the text after the * below his awards. Leave the last sentence as it is (For sources on 2 different award dates...).
Change the date of his Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse to (29. 06. 1919)

14) For Konteradmiral Kurt Weyher viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2192119&hi ... r#p2192119
Delete the ** after his Kroatischer Kriegsorden der Krone des Königs Zvonimir I. Klasse mit Eichenlaub and also delete the text after the ** at the bottom. The date 05.02.1944 is the correct award date for this award.
Update the bracket after his Komturkreuz des Königlich Ungarischen Ordens des Heiligen Krone mit Schwertern like this: (05. 01. 1944, Approved on 17. 04. 1944)

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Re: Senatspräsident Dr. jur. Wilhelm Sellmer (1877-1954)

Post by Requin Marteau » 08 Aug 2019 11:00

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
14 Mar 2019 11:09
Senatspräsident Dr. jur. Wilhelm Sellmer (1877-1954)

-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) II. Klasse
-Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse (not confirmed)
-Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
-Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse

*The EK II is visible on his ribbon bar. A badge award can also be seen on the photo but I can't confirm if that's the EK I. No further info on awards. 2 more ribbons are visible on his ribbon bar (see 2nd photo below). If anyone has any ideas on what they might be please comment.
Bonjour,
Maybe a Württemberg medaille (Württ. Landwehr-Dienstauszeichnung 2. Kl.), I found a Sellmer that serves in the reserve at the FAR "König Karl" (1. Württembergisches) Nr. 13.

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Re: Vizeadmiral Ernst Scheurlen (1894-1945)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 14 Aug 2019 11:35

Update for Vizeadmiral Ernst Scheurlen viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184087&hi ... n#p2184087

Please add:

-Königlich Ungarische Weltkriegs-Erinnerungsmedaille mit Schwertern
-Königlich Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille 1915/1918 mit Schwertern
(add these 2 awards below the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer)

-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) II. Klasse mit Schwertern
-Kriegsverdienstkreuz (1939) I. Klasse mit Schwertern
(add these 2 awards below the Spange (1939) zum Eisernen Kreuz I. Klasse)

-Krimschild
-Kriegsabzeichen für die Marineartillerie
(add these 2 awards at the bottom of his list)

The source is Scheurlen's awards grouping, see photo below.
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Re: Lietzmann, Wever, Brinkmann and Maertens

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 15 Aug 2019 16:41

Thanks to the help from Antonio Prieto on the GMIC forum, I have some updates regarding Spanish awards of 4 admirals.

Vizeadmiral Joachim Lietzmann viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182520&hi ... n#p2182520

Delete the Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Ordens für Verdienste zur See mit Weiß verliehen and replace it with Königlich Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See II. Klasse mit Weiß verliehen (23. 01. 1932)

Lietzmann wasn't awarded the Großkreuz of the Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See. We have the source for the II. Klasse below.
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Also delete "Königlich Spanisches Militär-Verdienstkreuz III. Klasse mit Rot verliehen (class not confirmed, see the last ribbon in the first row on the last photo below)" and replace it with Königlich Spanisches Militär-Verdienstorden (Class unknown) (leave the text in the bracket in red like this). We have no proof for the class of Lietzmann's Spanisches Militär-Verdienstorden. The proof that he did recieve some class of this order is his ribbon bar, last ribbon in the first row.

Please also delete the first 2 paragaphs below the awards ("Cartaphilus told me that Lietzmann..." and "On the first photo below he is"), leave the last paragraph. Also delete the * after his Kommandeurkreuz des Kaiserlich Japanischen Ordens des Heiligen Schatzes, this is the correct class of this award for Lietzmann.

The Breast Star on his right side of the chest is still unknown. It could possibly be the Spanisches Militär-Verdienstorden but it's impossible to say from this photo.

Vizeadmiral Paul Wever viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2184972&hi ... r#p2184972

The same document that reveals the award and award date for Lietzmann from above reveals the award date of Wever's Orden für Verdienste zur See. Note that his surname is misspelled as "Weber".
Please update the bracket after his Königlich Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See II. Klasse mit Weiß Verliehen like this: (23. 01. 1932, Approved on 28. 03. 1934)

Vizeadmiral Helmuth Brinkmann viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2181037&hi ... n#p2181037
Update his Königlich Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See II. Klasse like this: Königlich Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See II. Klasse mit Weiß Verliehen (21. 09. 1934, Approved on 08. 11. 1934)

Vizeadmiral Erhard Maertens viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182803&hi ... s#p2182803
Change the class of his Königlich Spanischer Orden für Verdienste zur See mit Weiß verliehen from III. Klasse to II. Klasse and add the award date: (21. 09. 1934)
Move this award above the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer to be chronologically correct.
See source below (same source for Brinkmann and Maertens).
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by luftk » 18 Aug 2019 13:56

Generaladmiral Otto Schultze received the British 1937 Coronation Medal. Extract from the Award Roll below.
Thank you to "paddywhack" from GMIC for providing this.
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Re: Generaladmiral z.V. Otto Schultze (1884-1966)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 18 Aug 2019 17:56

Great job Pierce, thank you! :thumbsup:

Moderators, for Generaladmiral z.V. Otto Schultze viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2178383&hi ... e#p2178383
Please add:
-Königlich Großbritannische König Georg VI. Krönungsmedaille (1937) (add this award below the Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnung IV. bis I. Klasse)

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Re: Paul Wülfing von Ditten and Erich Raeder

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 24 Aug 2019 13:16

A quick update, for Vizeadmiral z.V. Paul Wülfing von Ditten viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2185239&hi ... n#p2185239
Add the award date (16. 11. 1928) after his Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Ordens für Verdienste zur See mit Weiß verliehen.

For Großadmiral Dr. phil. h.c. Erich Raeder viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2177906&hi ... r#p2177906
Update his Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Ordens für Verdienste zur See (16. 11. 1928) like this: Großkreuz des Königlich Spanischen Ordens für Verdienste zur See mit Weiß Verliehen (16. 11. 1928)

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Re: Großadmiral Dr. phil. h.c. Erich Raeder (1876-1960)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 25 Aug 2019 14:40

For Großadmiral Dr. phil. h.c. Erich Raeder viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2177906&hi ... r#p2177906
Please delete the Königlich Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille (20. 11. 1917) (?)
The Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille was established in 1933, so the one written for Raeder in 1917 must be wrongly listed. The same award, but with Schwertern, is listed in 1937.

For the Königlich Bulgarische Kriegserinnerungsmedaille from 1937 please add 1915/1918 after the Kriegserinnerungsmedaille word.

You can also delete the (?) after the 1937 listing, and also delete all the text at the bottom.

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Re: Konteradmiral z.V. Walter Isendahl (1872-1945)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 31 Aug 2019 11:05

Thanks to Dave Danner over on the GMIC forum I have some corrections for Konteradmiral z.V. Walter Isendahl viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2187765&hi ... l#p2187765

Update his Württembergischer Friedrichs-Orden like this: Komturkreuz II. Klasse des Königlich Württembergischen Friedrichs-Ordens mit Schwertern (27. 11. 1915) There is an error in the Rangliste, the Class of this award for Isendahl is NOT Komturkreuz I. Klasse, there is no Breast Star on the photo.

Change the China-Denkmünze from Bronze to Stahl.
Also delete the "(not 100% confirmed) *" part, and delete the * at the bottom. Leave the sentence "Since Isendahl isn't listed in any of the Reichsmarine Rangliste (he retired in 1922), the source for some of the awards is his portrait photo where he is wearing a medal bar with 13 medals." Also, leave the sentence "The cross shaped dark medal (4th to last) is also a mystery." and everything below it.
Delete the part in between about the China-Denkmünze (I am not 100% sure only about the China-Denkmünze in Bronze...).

See here for the info from Dave: https://gmic.co.uk/topic/72929-please-h ... al-bar-id/

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by luftk » 01 Sep 2019 19:56

Konteradmiral Erwin Waßner
Please add:
-Königlich Großbritannische König Georg VI. Krönungsmedaille (1937)

Extract from the Award Roll below. Thank you to "paddywhack" from GMIC for providing this.
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Re: Konteradmiral Erwin Waßner (1887-1937)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 01 Sep 2019 20:36

Thank you Pierce!
Moderators, for Konteradmiral Erwin Waßner viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2191969&hi ... r#p2191969
Please add:
-Königlich Großbritannische König Georg VI. Krönungsmedaille (1937) (add it at the bottom of his list)

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Re: Char. Konteradmiral Waldemar Hirth (1884-1963)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 10 Sep 2019 22:17

Thanks to the new photo posted for Char. Konteradmiral Waldemar Hirth viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2187575&hi ... h#p2187575
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-Königlich Bayerische Jubiläumsmedaille für die bayerische Armee (1905) (add this award below the Eisernes Kreuz (1914) I. Klasse)
The medal in question can be seen on Hirth's medal bar on the new photo (last oval-shaped medal).
Confirmed by "Don D." from the Wehrmacht-Awards forum: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... ost8529946

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Re: Char. Vizeadmiral Hans Kolbe (1882-1957)

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 12 Sep 2019 21:52

For Char. Vizeadmiral Hans Kolbe viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239341&p=2182100&hi ... e#p2182100
Please update his Ritterordens von Avis like this:
-Kommandeurkreuz des Portugiesischen Ritterordens von Avis (03. 06. 1927)
You can delete the (Class not 100% confirmed) bracket.
The source for this update is Kolbe's award document for the Ritterorden von Avis.

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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Requin Marteau » 17 Oct 2019 07:57

Who is this Konteradmiral with Hermann Densch ? Crdl Thierry
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Re: Database of Kriegsmarine Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 17 Oct 2019 09:02

Requin Marteau wrote:
17 Oct 2019 07:57
Who is this Konteradmiral with Hermann Densch ? Crdl Thierry
Graveland and me agreed it's not a Kriegsmarine Konteradmiral. It has to be a Kaiserliche Marine Konteradmiral a.D. who attended Kaiser Wilhelm's funeral and wore a Kriegsmarine uniform. You can notice a long medal bar and also an unknown neck decoration.
I will try and find possible candidates among the Kaiserliche Marine Konteradmirale.

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