von Gültlingen, Feldkommandant Chartres

[Georges JEROME]

Hello,

Some trouble with this officer:
Oberstleutnant F.K. von Gütlingen was appointed as Feldkommandant Chartres after 8. Inf.Div., left the town on 25.06.1940. Replaced by Oberstlt. Ebmeier on september 1940.

Could it be Freiherr von Gütlingen, Regimboto
01.08.1930 Hptm. , Adj. Schütz.Rgt. 2.
30.01.1945 Oberst ?

Any bio data welcome !

[Rossano]

Hi
It is not Regimboto
Rgds.

[Georges JEROME]

ok

[Georges JEROME]

Oberstleutnant von Gütlingen first Feldkommandant Chartres with Jean Moulin then Préfet de l'Eure (soon dismissed) on 1940.

[Rossano]

He was Oberst !
P.S.: Kindly reply to my question about v. Köller

[Georges JEROME]

I look for german source upon him. French source is related sources not primary source. Certainely some offizier z.V.

[Georges JEROME]

Alfred von Gültlingen - Schleppegrell

1940 25/6 8. Inf. Division (Chartres) z F.K. 751
18/9/40 Oberstlt zV Kdt FK 751 z. FR WK V
Oberstlt zV (1.4.1942 Oberst zV) Kdt Stalag VA (Ludwigsburg) T 77 950

16.7.1942 Stab W.E.I. Stuttgart z Wehrüberwachung Kdo Krakau T 77 953

add info welcome thanks

[Rossano]

Schlepegrell correct (also Frhr. v.)
Alfred became Ob. z.V. on 1.4.42 whilst the last one (WEI Stuttgart) was in july/dec. 42 Otl. z.V. (correct without "-Schlepegrell" ? First name ?)

[Minotauros]

Bonjour!


It's Oberst z.V. Friedrich Wilhelm FREIHERR von GÜLTLINGEN-SCHLEPEGRELL, *29.08.1870 - †26.11.1957.

As a Major he commanded the Württembergische Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 122 from 01.11.1918 to 11.12.1918.

Have a look at his picture here: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... 7JUWS7BU5H

Best regards,

[Rossano]

Friedrich became Otl. z.V. on 1.2.43 (before he was char. Otl. z.V.), so he can not be the Frhr. v. Gültlingen (Schlepegrell ?) who was july/dec. 42 already Otl. z.V. at WEI. Stuttgart

[Georges JEROME]

thank you all so to resume :
Oberst z.V. Friedrich Wilhelm FREIHERR von GÜLTLINGEN-SCHLEPEGRELL, *29.08.1870 - †26.11.1957.
Major and Kdr Württembergische Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 122 from 01.11.1918 to 11.12.1918.
1940 25/6 8. Inf. Division (Chartres) z F.K. 751
18/9/40 Oberstlt zV Kdt FK 751 z. FR WK V
Oberstlt zV (1.4.1942 Oberst zV) Kdt Stalag VA (Ludwigsburg) T 77 950

[Dave Danner]

There seems to be some information mixed up.

Friedrich Freiherr von Gültlingen-Schlepegrell was not an Oberst. His brother Alfred was the Oberst, as Rossano said above.

Alfred was a Kgl. württembergischer Oberstleutnant a.D., while Friedrich was a charakterisierter Oberstleutnant a.D.

So, Alfred was the OTL z.V., promoted to Oberst z.V., while Friedrich was the char. OTL z.V., patented as an OTL z.V.

Gültlingen, Alfred Freiherr von
*22.05.1868 in Ludwigsburg, †12.01.1963 ebenda
- Mitbesitzer von Berneck, Erbkämmerer von Württemberg
- 22.03.1913 Major, Dragoner-Regiment Nr. 26, Bataillons-Kommandeur im Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 120, Kommandeur des Dragoner-Regiments Nr. 26, 18.04.1918 Oberstleutnant, Kommandeur des Kavallerie-Schützen-Kommandos Nr. 5, Oberstleutnant a.D., Oberstleutnant z.V., 01.04.1942 Oberst z.V.

Gültlingen-Schlepegrell, Friedrich Wilhelm Freiherr von
*29.08.1870 in Ludwigsburg, †26.11.1957 auf Berneck
- Mitbesitzer von Berneck, ab 1908 "Gültlingen-Schlepegrell"
- 27.01.1907 Rittmeister, kommandiert zum preußischen Husaren-Regiment Nr. 15, 28.11.1914 Major, Adjutant der 80. Reserve-Division, Adjutant der 108. Infanterie-Division, 22.11.1917 unter Versetzung in das Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 19 dem stellv. Generalkommando des XIII. Armeekorps zur Verfügung gestellt, Kommandeur des I. Bataillons des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 127, Kommandeur des Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 122, char. Oberstleutnant a.D., char. Oberstleutnant z.V., 01.02.1943 Oberstleutnant z.V.

I have no idea which ones held which WW2 assignments.

[Rossano]

Hello Dave
1) You wrote above "Gültlingen Alfred", no "-Schlepegrell" ?
2) Always "Gültlingen-Schlepegrell" correct ? Because in PV I also found "Gültlingen u. von Schlepegrell" (Friedrich)
3) It seems that there was a 3rd "Gültlingen"(-Schlepegrell ?) who in july/dec. 42 was Otl. zV.(at WEI. Stuttgart), do You have him too ?
Thanks, Rossano

[Georges JEROME]

here another pic of von Gültlingen (source : Musée de la Résistance)

von Gultlingen et Moulin.jpg (106.82 KiB) Viewed 374 times

any chance to associate him with WW I pics to ID the right one in the link

[Dave Danner]

Hello Dave
1) You wrote above "Gültlingen Alfred", no "-Schlepegrell" ?
2) Always "Gültlingen-Schlepegrell" correct ? Because in PV I also found "Gültlingen u. von Schlepegrell" (Friedrich)
3) It seems that there was a 3rd "Gültlingen"(-Schlepegrell ?) who in july/dec. 42 was Otl. zV.(at WEI. Stuttgart), do You have him too ?
Thanks, Rossano

Rossano,

The name change to Gültlingen-Schlepegrell was only for Friedrich and his son Parm-Otto (*1901), not for his brothers or cousins. Officially, the name change was indeed to "Freiherr von Gültlingen und von Schlepegrell", but the hyphenated version "Freiherr von Gültlingen-Schlepegrell" was commonly used. Parm-Otto was not an officer, by the way; he was a Forstbeamter.

Alfred and Friedrich were the only living Oberstleutnants in WW2. So the Oberstlt.z.V. (WEI Stuttgart) in 1942 should be Friedrich; someone may have neglected to put "char." in.

- Oberstlt. Wilhelm Frhr. v. Gültlingen died of wounds on 23.09.1914.
- Oberstlt.a.D. Franz Frhr. v. Gültlingen died on 25.06.1934.
- Oberstlt.a.D. Paul Frhr. v. Gültlingen died on 12.08.1938.
- Maj.a.D. Emil Frhr. v. Gültlingen died on 27.08.1922.
- Maj.a.D. Eberhard Frhr. v. Gültlingen died on 18.06.1927.
- Rittm.d.R.a.D. Konrad Frhr. v. Gültlingen died on 27.02.1939.