Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 16 Feb 2018 23:30

Rolf von Humann-Hainhofen (15.6.1885 Hannover - 24.11.1961 Bad Kissingen) was a former SS-Brigadeführer der Allgemeine-SS.
1.10.1936 Major der Reserve
1.7.1942 Oberstleutnant der Reserve
Ic (Abwehroffizier) im Kdostab des MBF Belgien u Nordfrankreich. 1940 - 11.42
Feldkommandant Angoulême 11.42 - 26.8.44 P.O.W.
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Rossano » 17 Feb 2018 08:24

Hello Georges
Thanks for Your contribute. What' s Your source for "....-Hainhofen" ?
You write FK from 11.42, my source (maybe wrong ?) reads from 9.42. Your data correct ?
Apart that, in Personalveränderungen 1943 there is a note reading that he was in the Fhr.Res. until 20.06.43 when he became FK. So this means that he was FK a first time from 9?11.42 until maybe spring 43, then again a second time from 06.43 until 8.44 (or one time only from 06.43 ?)
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by iggy88 » 20 Jul 2018 23:39

Just a small addition regarding FK 528 (Tours). Here is a snipping from a document regarding the appointment of an Oberst Boemer on 03 Feb 1944. (I'm sorry that I have no further info regarding the document from which I got this. When I took the snipping, the only thing that I indicated was the date. Well, I hope it helps anyway.)
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Rossano » 21 Jul 2018 08:07

Hello Todd
It is Ob.z.V. "Boehmer" correct !
I have him from 11.05.44 (from 29.12.43 kdrt.) as FK 788 (not 528) in Tours.
So I don´t understand why "from 03.02.44".......
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by iggy88 » 21 Jul 2018 19:24

Rossano,
I may be wrong on FK 528. But the snipping I posted was definitely from 03 Feb 1944. As to why he is mentioned on that date, ???
As I mentioned in my original post, I took the snipping from the document at a time before I joined AHF. Back then the info I collected was only for my own personal use and as a result, I wasn't always meticulous in recording the sources. I have since learned the importance of recording sources since I joined the forum.
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jul 2018 00:28

thank you for add
Tours (Indre et Loire)
FK 588 1940 – 2.1943 Oberst Kloss 00.00.42 00.00.43
FK 788 24.2.1943 (ex KK 788) Oberst z.V. Leopold Boehmer 29.12.43 (confirmed 3.2.44) 17.09.44 POW
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Rossano » 30 Jul 2018 06:00

Hello Georges
FK 588 : Tessin has it as HVS from 12.42 (did it become 3?4.44 an OFK ?)
I have von Massow FK until 12.42 instead
FK 788 : Tessin has it from 12.42
I have Kloss (uncertain) from 12.42
So, from where do You have 2.43 for both FK, and Kloss as FK 588 ?
Finally I have Kloss as Otl. (from where Ob. ?)
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jul 2018 13:22

I make a mistake therefore the organisation was moving. lexikon der Wehrmacht was usefull and bio of FK help to check.

FK Tours (Indre et Loire)
FK 528 (not 588) 1940 - 1941 (> Heeresgebiet Miette)
FK 588 short time according Lexikon der Wehrmacht
FK 788 from 12.1942 (prior as KK 788 in dept Indre et Loire LdW )
29.12.1943 - 17.09.1944 Oberst z.V. Leopold Boehmer (confirmed 03.02.1944)
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jul 2018 17:31

A document from Archives Départementales d'Indre et Loire mention :
Lageberichte trimestriels rédigés à Angers par l'Oberstleutnant Kloss, futur chef de la
Feldkommandantur 588 à Tours et concernant la région de l'Ouest.
Quarterly Lageberichte written at Angers by Oberstleutnant Kloss further chief of Feldkommandantur 588.

this confirm FK 588 was a time at Tours between FK 528 and FK 788
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Rossano » 30 Jul 2018 21:14

Hello Jerome
Which date has the document ?
When was FK 588 in Tours ? Tessin reports this FK first in Angers then after 12.42 in Clerm.Ferr. as HVS (no mention of Tours, that' s why I thought that Kloss commanded FK 788 in Tours……)
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P.S.: Do You have any officer for FK 606 (Valenciennes) and FK 564 ?

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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jul 2018 22:29

it's the title of the file in Archives Departement of Indre et Loire.
Therefore I found mention of Oberst Kloss as FK Angers on 1940 prior he moved to Tours on 1941. Kloss as FK Tours is confirmed by poster to population on 1942
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Jul 2018 22:44

Valenciennes was a FK in North of France under MBF Belgien und Nord Frankreich not MBF Frankreich.
FK 564 was some months in 42 in Niort. no data on FKdt.
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 31 Jul 2018 11:04

here Oberst Kloss as FK Tours. Any bio datas welcome.
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Rossano » 01 Aug 2018 07:05

Hello Georges, very good, thanks !
Was Kloss Oberst z.V. or aktiv ? No idea when he was promoted to Oberst ? I have him as Otto. Hans (in Pz.Arch.) has a Dr. Kloß Otto OTL. 1.6.40, but I doubt that he is the same officer.
Maybe I´ll find him one day in Personalveränderungen.....
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Re: Feldkommandantur in Mil.verwaltungsbezirk B (Frankreich)

Post by Georges JEROME » 01 Aug 2018 16:42

hello Rossano,

no more info. I hope someone with primary source will find datas on him.
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