Generals in the south of France

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Generals in the south of France

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Post by Phil Nix » 18 Feb 2007, 12:56

Thought this might be of interest
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Post by harmel » 18 Feb 2007, 14:47

Very nice Phil, nice to see Kohlermann in the frame.
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Post by Elwyn W » 20 Feb 2007, 05:43

Nice in Nice!!

Another photographic confirmation of Kohlermann with the way he wore his spange and assault badge. See the general standing on the SdKfZ 221 or 222 or 223 in the Request for identification thread.

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Post by iggy88 » 31 Jan 2018, 05:11

Here is another photo from the same day. This one shows Kohlermann (center, pointing) and supposedly Kurt Hoffmann (second from right) inspecting the defenses from the Ponchettes promontory. (Photo source: After the Battle magazine issue 110)
I see the Ärmelband "Feldherrnhalle“ on Kohlermann. The other officer, listed as Hoffmann, also has an Ärmelband. However, I am not sure if he actually had one. In the first photo he is facing the opposite way and his left sleeve cuff cannot be seen. Any thoughts?
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Post by graveland » 01 Feb 2018, 00:30

The RKT officer on far left is Walter Evers by the way.
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... lter+evers

Your Hoffmann can not be Kurt Hoffmann, Generalleutnant und Kommandeur der 715. Infanterie-Division (at far right in the top picture).
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Per ... nnKurt.htm

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Post by iggy88 » 01 Feb 2018, 01:09

I see your point. I saw the line of text directly under the top photo of this topic reading "hoffmann kurt" and thought that his identity as such had been confirmed. I guess that the identity of this general is still unknown?

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Post by graveland » 01 Feb 2018, 01:59

iggy88 wrote:I see your point. I saw the line of text directly under the top photo of this topic reading "hoffmann kurt" and thought that his identity as such had been confirmed. I guess that the identity of this general is still unknown?
So sorry, I must have expressed badly. The general on the top pic is Kurt Hoffmann, that's for sure, but I think that the man with the Ärmelband "Feldherrnhalle“ (second photo, second from right) is NOT a general.

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Post by iggy88 » 01 Feb 2018, 03:09

No problem. I may have misunderstood your first post. Thanks again. And now that I look at both photos again, they're not from the same day. In the bottom photo Evers wears an open-collar tunic.

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Post by ttvon » 02 Feb 2018, 15:10

Hi,
The RKT on right of the first pic is Walter Evers. Just a guess, the man on right of the second pic (with the Ärmelband "Feldherrnhalle“) is Joachim-Helmut Wolff.

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Post by kstdk » 02 Feb 2018, 15:56

Hello,
one in the same line, also Nice with proposed General Kniess, dont know if it is correct? Any one for the other officers? Also see this page, middle part: http://ratatoulha.chez-alice.fr/_geneal ... -eloi.html
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Id: From left to right: A Blutorden holder, Kurt Hoffmann, Otto Kohlermann, Dipl. Ing. Johannes Frink, ???, ???, ???, Walter Botsch
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Post by graveland » 02 Feb 2018, 16:27

kstdk wrote:Hello,
one in the same line, also Nice with proposed General Kniess, dont know if it is correct? Any one for the other officers? Also see this page, middle part: http://ratatoulha.chez-alice.fr/_geneal ... -eloi.html
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From left to right: A Blutorden holder, Kurt Hoffmann, Otto Kohlermann, Dipl. Ing. Johannes Frink, ???, ???, ???, Walter Botsch & Baptist Knieß.

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Post by kstdk » 03 Feb 2018, 20:12

Hello, some more, all from the link in my last post.
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Id: Luftwaffe GL Johannes Fink (2.v.l.), GL Otto Kohlermann (3.v.l.), GdI Baptist Knieß (center, holding map behind back), GM Walter Botsch (2.v.r., wearing sunglasses)
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Id: Walter Evers (2.v.r.) & GL Otto Kohlermann (r)
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Id: Walter Evers (l) & GL Otto Kohlermann (2.v.l.)

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Post by iggy88 » 03 Feb 2018, 21:15

Your second photo: Luftwaffe GL Johannes Fink (2.v.l.), GL Otto Kohlermann (3.v.l.), GdI Baptist Knieß (center, holding map behind back), GM Walter Botsch (2.v.r., wearing sunglasses).
Your third photo: Walter Evers (2.v.r.) & GL Otto Kohlermann (r)
Your fourth photo: Walter Evers (l) & GL Otto Kohlermann (2.v.l.)

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Post by LaSi69 » 04 Feb 2018, 13:03

iggy88 wrote:Here is another photo from the same day. This one shows Kohlermann (center, pointing) and supposedly Kurt Hoffmann (second from right) inspecting the defenses from the Ponchettes promontory. (Photo source: After the Battle magazine issue 110)
I see the Ärmelband "Feldherrnhalle“ on Kohlermann. The other officer, listed as Hoffmann, also has an Ärmelband. However, I am not sure if he actually had one. In the first photo he is facing the opposite way and his left sleeve cuff cannot be seen. Any thoughts?
I would say he is future KC holder Joachim-Helmut Wolff, KC on 21.1.45 as Obstlt. and Kommandeur of Gren.Rgt. "Feldherrnhalle".
He is better seen on the right of the second photo with Evers and Kohlermann.
On the second photo (last post of"kstdk") the general between Kohlermann and Knieß is GLdI Kurt HOFFMANN.
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