Poland 1939: KIA German officers

[nimbuss]

Exactly this Rogoźno Peter.

[Piotr Kapuscinski]

It is Rogóźno, not Rogoźno. That was my point (if we are using Polish letters).

I know - in books there is also this misspelling (including in "72 Pułk Piechoty" by Przybyszewski too).

But this village is Rogóźno - with " ó " (at least nowadays).

[nimbuss]

Well, of course. My mistake.

[Njorl]

As we have Elwyn on board (hopefully) maybe we could get back to work;)

It seems that Bernd's last update took place on 23 Oct 2009, 18:02 (see here on page 70).

Next addition from Christian aka Stauffenberg II was on 02 Jan 2010, 14:18, on page 73 (here).

Shall we continue along the old rules?
- everybody can contribute information,
- Christian aka Staufenberg collects and verifies information and posts proposition of update,
- Elwyn updates lists.

Now I can see, that Elwyn did not waste time and already started updating

Officers listed : 902 / + 104 in research section ..... 16.01.2012, update including various posts on PP74

Regards,
MJU

[Bf110]

Hello,

I found an ebay auction with an obituary of Lt. Bitschkowski, Eberhard: http://www.ebay.de/itm/174-WH-Foto-Port ... 46004681ed
and another two photographs of graves:
Lt. v. Matthießen, Ludwig: http://www.ebay.de/itm/y17-Polen-Einsat ... 27c2c04b75
Hptm. Schütze, Alexander E.: http://www.ebay.de/itm/y18-Polen-Einsat ... 519d100e08

regards,
Bf110

[nimbuss]

Lt. v. Matthießen, Ludwig: http://www.ebay.de/itm/y17-Polen-Einsat ... 27c2c04b75
Hptm. Schütze, Alexander E.: http://www.ebay.de/itm/y18-Polen-Einsat ... 519d100e08

It looks they were from Artillerie Regiment 20 and died by Brest-Litowsk.
Anybody knows how did they die?

[Bf110]

Hello,

again a photograph on ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Ilza-Polen- ... 2a194953a8.
Grave of Oberst Ditfurth, Lt. d.R. Schröder and Lt. Megg(e)l all from KSchReg 9.

regards,
Bf110

[Elwyn W]

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You could be wright Domen.
I've just written what I had seen.

So maybe this one is also not the same person:
Müller-Haeseler Martin Karl Hugo, 02.08.1897, Maj., Luftw., -, 03.09.1939, VB, H. Gru. Nord
- he was to be Fl.V.Offz. I.A.K. (what does it mean?); what is strange - some time ago I saw information (do not remember where) that he was to die near Częstochowa (XVI A.K. area) ??????

because the from I.A.K is written: Müller-Hässler not Müller-Haeseler. Unfortunatelly there are no names on the list.
.........................................

I believe Fl.V.Offz was Fliegerverbingdungsoffizier, commonly known as Flivo. He was the man with many high power antennae hoisted from his Sd.Kfz. 11 and racks of radios inside whose prime job would be to call in the stukas for Blitzkrieg. He would be a LW officer assigned to the army in the front line for sure at the Corp level. So makes perfect sense to be same man. In any case, I have taken the liberty to update as such. If you disagree, let me know.

Cheers
Elwyn

[Njorl]

From expired eBay auction.

Regards,
MJU

Spielvogel Georg, 15.09.1897, Maj., Kdr. II. (Schl.)/LG 2, Luftw., 09.09.1939 (Flugpl. Warschau-Süd), VB, VB, Marius Emmerling "Luftwaffe nad Polska“

[Igor Karpov]

von Wagner-Wehrborn Gustav, 03.05.1897, Oblt. d. R., -, -, 11.09.1939-12.09.1939 (b. Korczyna)

He also was NSKK-Obersturmführer. He died as a reconnaissance officer in the forefront of Jaslo in the Carpathians, 11.09.1939.

Regards,
Igor

[Piotr Kapuscinski]

Thanks Igor for this info. Do you also happen to know which unit he was serving in?

Bf110 - thanks for your links to ebay auctions! But I have one request. If that's not a problem - could you please attach a picture from ebay directly to the forum next time, like Njorl did in his last post? Ebay auctions only last for some time, and after they expire, it is no longer possible to see pictures they contained. And when I've visited the forum last time, the auction containing the photo of the grave of Oberst Ditfurth was already expired.

Or maybe someone could post this photo, if you saved it before this auction expired?

[Heimatschuss]

Hello,

I've found two obituraries for an officer who's not in the master list so far:

Lt. Karl G. Buck; KIA near Zamocz; Sept 20, 1939

Source:
Vorarlberger Tagblatt of Oct 10, 1939, p.7
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno? ... =7&zoom=33

If he really was in an Aufklärungsregiment the unit probably was Aufklärungsregiment 9 of 4. leichte Division. http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... ruppen.htm

Best regards
Torsten

[Piotr Kapuscinski]

Lt. Karl G. Buck; KIA near Zamocz; Sept 20, 1939

Very nice find! One completely new officer to the list!

Zamocz; Sept 20, 1939

Correct spelling is Zamosc. According to KTB of 4. Lei.Div., on 20 September Aufkl.Rgt.9 fought in Czesniki (which is a village located ca. 17 km from Zamosc via road - see the map in the link below):

http://mapy.emiejsca.pl/zamosc-czesniki,dojazd.html

So he was most likely KIA in the battle of Czesniki.

Battle of Czesniki beginned in the evening of 20.09. with Polish forces attacking & capturing villages Czesniki and Bozy Dar - enemy forces (parts of 4. Lei.Div.) encountered there fell back southwards and occupied new defensive position along the line of forests & hills. Poles reported capturing cars and motorcycles.

Battle in the area of Czesniki lasted for the next 48 hours (until evening 22.09.), but that's another story.

When it comes to Zamosc - there were fights there in the night from 19.09. to 20.09. But AA.9 was not there then - there were II./KSR.10, I./AR.102 & 2./PAA.50 of 4. Lei.Div. + parts of 2. Pz.Div (Gruppe Stollbrock). Zamosc was attacked by Polish 2nd reserve Inf.Rgt. under Lt.Col. S. Gumowski (2 battalions) of 29. Inf.Brig. Polish infantry advanced into the town, but was repulsed by counterattack, suffering heavy losses.

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Maybe he was not from AA.9, but from AA.5 (2. Pz.Div.) or AA.27 (27. Inf.Div.) - there is also such an option. But I'm not sure if these units fought in or near Zamosc on 20 September. I don't have info about exact composition of Gruppe Stollbrock. Here is what ww2 day by day says about that night fight in Zamosc:

Kradschtz.Btl.2: 3:00 the 7./Kav.Schtz.Rgt.10 north of Zamosc is outflanked by strong enemy forces and requests tank support. Kp.Seidensticker was already alarmed and platoon Stotten is sent north to clear the situation. The platoon recaptures the barracks and clears the northern part of Zamosc together with 7./Kav.Schtz.R.10.

At the crack of dawn several enemy soldiers are captured including the commanding Lt.Col. of the attacking polish battalion.

3:30 The rest of Kp.Seidensticker and Kpfgr.Stollbrock are attacked by elements of a polish battalion. The enemy advanced to 40m to the parking area of the Kpfgr. and attacks with handgrenades and rifles. The attack is rejected by the tank of Olt.v.Jaworski who fires 7,5cm HE grenades from 30-60m distance. The remaining tanks clear the town and the road.

Around 8:00 the fighting was over and most of the attacking polish battalion was destroyed or captured. Except a light wounded the company has no casualties.

The above fragment from ww2 day by day is a brief translation of a Bericht from pp. 285 - 286 of divisional history of 2. Pz.Div. by Franz Josef Strauss (on pp. 285 - 286 there is Bericht uber die Tatigkeit der zur "Gruppe Stollbrock" abgestellten 4. Kompanie, Hauptmann Seidensticker, fur die Zeit vom 14. bis 22.9.1939).

And here is what Polish historian Ludwik Glowacki writes about this fight (basing on account of Lt. P. Potocki - commander of march battalion of 7th Inf.Rgt. - his account is dated 07.01.1940, Paris):

"In the night from 19 to 20 September (...) 2nd reserve Inf.Rgt. of 29. Inf.Brig. under Lt.Col. S. Gumowski, consisting of two battalions - march battalion of 7th Inf.Rgt. and surplus battalion of 61st Inf.Rgt. - at dawn stormed into the town. Here, however, Polish soldiers encountered massed, concentrated fire of machine guns and were attacked with hand grenades by German crew, positioned in the Zamosc prison. The attacking regiment was also constantly being attacked by German tanks*. As the result of fierce combats the regiment was shattered."

Lt.Col. S. Gumowski was WIA & captured. Remnants of 2nd Inf.Rgt. withdrew north to Panska Dolina forests (together with main forces of 29. Brig.). On 21.09. Col. Jozef Wiatr took command of remnants of the 2nd Inf.Rgt.

*It should be noted that 29. Inf.Brig. was an improvised unit and had no artillery and no AT guns.

[Njorl]

Regarding:

Dießl Heinz, 09.04.1914, Hptm., -, -, 16.09.1939 (Lubien, San. Kp. 54), VB

Oberleutnant Heinz Dießl was Chef of 8./G.J.R. 100. He died in/near Burgthal (few km W of Gródek Jagielloński) of blood loss (rifle shot in thigh artery).

Apparently he was posthumoulsy promoted to Hauptmann.

Source: Fr. Friedmann Die Sturmfahrt unserer Gebirgsjäger durch Polen. Gefechts- und Erlebnisbericht des II. Geb.-Jäger-Reg. 100, Verlag des "Berchtesgadener Anzeiger", Berchtesgaden - Weihnachten 1939

Regards
MJU

[Njorl]

Witschas Ernst Otto Traugott, 09.07.1890, Hptm., -, -, 04.09.1939 (b. Überg. ü.d. Warthe, Grablage: Sieradz), VB

Inscription on cross looks like 3 Komp. JR 102.

Source: expired eBay auction

Regards
MJU