Poland 1939: KIA German officers

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Re: Hermann Heesch

Post by Mikedc » 10 Jul 2014 22:35

Dr. Heesch Hermann, 24.10.1893, Hptm. d. R., Kdr. 10./I. R. 73, 19. Div., 25.09.1939 (Fort II a ostw. Janow v. Warschau), VB, O. v. Knobelsdorff, „Geschichte der niedersächsischen 19. Panzer-Division 1939 – 1945“

I've found the following.
Dr. Hermann Heesch
Born 24-10-1893
Member NSDAP: 351.482
Member SS: 88.199
Promoted to SS-Untersturmführer on 20-04-1938
Source: dws-xip.pl site

And also this:
Nachname: Dr. Heesch
Vorname: Hermann
Dienstgrad: Hauptmann der Reserve
Geburtsdatum: 24.10.1893
Geburtsort: Büsum
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 25.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Fort II a ostw.Janow v.Warschau
Source: vdk-site

Greetings, Mike

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Njorl » 11 Sep 2014 19:11

As far as this officer is concerned:
Master List wrote:Janssen Armin, 04.11.1904, Hptm., -, -, 11.09.1939, VB
Hauptmann Janssen, Chef der 2./Pionier-Bataillon 27, was KIA exactly 75 years ago in Osiek. He was reported to have been killed on Osiek cemetery (he was later buried there).

Source: Ingolstaedter Pioniere im Feldzuge gegen Polen

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by nimbuss » 03 Oct 2014 18:31

Schilbach Kurt Felix, 13.03.1914, Oblt., -, -, 07.09.1939 (Kazanow), VB
According to Michał Huber article about german graveyard in Końskie (based on Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge e.V. documents), he was an officer of 7./J.R.66. Exhumed to Końskie from Kazanów on spring 1940.

http://www.konskie.org.pl/2014/09/cment ... ich-w.html
(2014-10-03)
Leutnant Kurt Schilbach, ur. 1914, + 7.9.1939, 7./J.R.66
Probably posthumously promoted to Oblt.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Njorl » 15 Oct 2014 18:56

Wurst Richard, 18.03.1916, Lt. d. R., -, -, 12.09.1939, VB
According to diary of Oskar Weitbrecht, evangelic priest from Bad Mergentheim, quoted in THIS article, "Leutnant Richard Wurst aus Bad Mergentheim" must have been a Zugführer in III./I.R. 55.

Edit: he could have been in 10. Kompanie. From the same article:
Tatsächlich sind auf dem Friedhof von Solka Wielka neben 120 polnischen Soldaten 95 deutsche vom Infanterie Regiment 55 beerdigt. 76 gehörten zum Mergentheimer Bataillon, 56, also der überwiegende Teil, zur 10. Kompanie. Von diesen stammten 15 aus dem Kreis Mergentheim, fünf aus Bad Mergentheim, vier aus Elpersheim, je einer aus Edelfingen, aus Igersheim, aus Laudenbach, aus Pfitzingen, aus Stuppach und aus Weikersheim.
Scan of his obituary (below) comes from the same article (as per 2014-10-15).

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by tigre » 28 Jan 2015 22:01

Hello to all :D; just a little complement......................

Grave of Joachim Hauck (Stab Pz. Abt. 65 - Se 19, 1939)

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/pokaz_watek.php?id=736157

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Bf110 » 04 Apr 2015 12:44

Hello,
Stauffenberg II wrote: Graeve Heinz, 19.04.1916, Lt., -, -, 12.09.1939 (b. A. 10 km südostw. Welun), VB
can one of you identify the (flying?) unit Lt. Graeve belonged to? Sorry, I dont have better a resolution.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by nimbuss » 11 Apr 2015 22:52

can one of you identify the (flying?) unit Lt. Graeve belonged to? Sorry, I dont have better a resolution
3/Fl Gr 12
probably = 3.(H)/12

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Diaspora1942 » 26 Apr 2015 11:44

Hugelmann Otto, 17.12.1918, Lt., -, -, 19.09.1939 (Winniki südöstl. Lemberg), VB
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Bf110 » 02 May 2015 11:58

nimbuss wrote: 3/Fl Gr 12
probably = 3.(H)/12
thx nimbuss, that's my guess too.

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Lt. Wieninger

Post by Bf110 » 31 May 2015 23:20

Hello.
Stauffenberg II wrote: Wieninger Hermann, 26.08.1909, Lt. d. R., -, -, 17.09.1939, VB
As you can see, he was from 12./Gebirgsjägerregiment 100.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Heimatschuss » 06 Dec 2015 14:19

Hello,

I've a new case from GHdA (2009, p.529) that isn't on the list so far:

Oberleutnant
Friedrich-Karl Ludwig von Watzdorf
* 10.11.1916 Rotental (= Czerwentzütz, County Ratibor, Upper Silesia)
+ 05.09.1939 KIA near Petrikau (Petrokow)*

*)
Petrikau = Piotrków Trybunalski, there was heavy fighting around this town that day involving Schützen-Regiment 1.
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic ... 30#p226920

Also Hans (123guderian) already had this about him:
Leutnant 01.04.37 von WATZDORF Friedrich-Karl 10.11.1916-05.09.1939 (Schützen Reg.1) Oberleutnant (01.09.39)
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... a46#203056

References:

Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels
Vol.147; Verlag C.A. Starke; Limburg/Lahn; 2009

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Torsten

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by nimbuss » 09 Jan 2016 12:25

Heimatschuss wrote:Oberleutnant
Friedrich-Karl Ludwig von Watzdorf
Good work Thorsten.

According to:
http://gliederungundstellenbesetzung.bl ... gt1-d.html
On 03.01.39 Leutnant von Watzdorf was a Zugführer in 5. Kompanie (schwere)

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by nimbuss » 09 Jan 2016 12:34

Albrecht Friedrich, 19.10.1888, Hptm., -, -, 11.09.1939 (Mszczonow) , VB
It seems it was he, who was the only KIA officer of le.Flak-Abt.83 in Poland.
It also seems that le.Flak-Abt.83 took part in quite known combat of Mszczonów.

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source: http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum27/sdds.jpg

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by nimbuss » 06 Feb 2016 00:02

Ploth Gottfried, 17.11.1917, Lt., -, -, 16.09.1939 (am Waldrand 2,5 km westl. Debsk), VB
He was an officer of A.A.(mot.) 4 from 1. Pz.Div.

And there is another officer from this unit KIA in Poland: Lt. Frhr. v. Harthausen
MIA on 5.9.1939 by Sulejów, but his death was confirmed later.
Unfortunatelly no confirmation in VB database.

source: Scheibe, Römhild, Die Aufklärungsabteilung 4 in Polen

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA German officers

Post by Heimatschuss » 23 Mar 2016 22:14

Hello,

a second officer killed near Petrikau (Piotrków Trybunalski) on Sept 5th, 1939:

Oberleutnant d. R. Dr. Kurt Voß
Kurt Voß.JPG
Source: Zeitungs-Verlag. Fachblatt für das gesamte Zeitungswesen of Sept. 16th, 1939; 40. Jahrgang; Nr.37; p.5
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno? ... =5&zoom=48

He's not on our list and there's no grave registered for him at http://www.volksbund.de. Here's a Wikipedia entry for him: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vo%C ... rnalist%29 . According to Leonhardt (2009, pp.84 ) who quotes from a death notice published in a Hanover newspaper Dr. Voß served in a regiment commanded by an 'Oberst Neumann'. That should make it easy to find out at least the regiment of Dr. Voss.

References:

Leonhardt, Wolfgang
'Hannoversche Geschichten'. Berichte aus verschiedenen Stadtteilen.
Books on Demand GmbH; Norderstedt; 2009

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Torsten
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