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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 18 Feb 2009 14:06

Christoph - 30 IX
Hel Peninsula

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Edit:

Rolf Michaelis in his book "Die SS-Hemwehr Danzig, 1939. Erlangen: Michaelis-Verlag, 1993" provides a name list of 39 soldiers from SS Heimwehr-Danzig KIA during the Polish Campaign (24 KIA near Tczew - the vast majority of them by headshots, 11 KIA - Kępa Oksywska, 1 - Rede in Gdańsk, 1 - Polish Post, 2 - unidentified place).

In fact also at least 5 (up to 10) soldiers (out of 60 who took part in the second assault against Westerplatte on 01.09.1939) of SS Heimwehr-Danzig were KIA in Westerplatte:

1. SS mann Karl Hippler (01.09.1939)
2. Frantz Walter Ferdinand (01.09.1939)
3. SS Unterscharfuehrer Walter Partzaff (01.09.1939)
4. SS mann Gerhardt Werner Gerhardt (01.09.1939 - according to other sources DoW on 04.09.1939)
5. SS-Mann Reinhard Fleszner (DoW on 02.09.1939)

But I don't have Rolf Michaelis's book.

Does anybody know if there is any officer among those 39 listed KIA?

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 18 Feb 2009 19:37

Could we add the following 9 new entries?:

von Frankenberg und Proschlitz, Alexander, -, Hptm., Adj. 8. Pz.Brig., 5. Pz.Div., 01.09.1939 (Wideki), KTB 5. Pz.Div. BAMA RH 27-5/175 (S. 2)
Flemming, Günter, -, Lt., 13./I.R.368, 207. Div., 19.09.1939 (vor Oxhöft), Lexikon Der Wehrmacht
Köpplin, -, -, Lt., 10./I.R.59, 19. Div., 05.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Kreuser [oder Kleusler], -, -, Lt. [o. Oblt.], Zgf.i. d. 5./I.R.73, 16.09.1939 (battle of Bzura, Bronisławy), ww2 day by day
Lieff, -, -, Oblt., -, 19. Div., 02.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Nebe, -, -, Hptm., Kdr. II./I.R.59, 18.09.1939 (Stefanów), ww2 day by day
Riedinger, -, -, Lt., -, 1. Pz.Div., 02.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Graf Reventlow, Heinrich, -, Lt. [v. Loudon: Oberst], 1.(H)/41 (Heinkel Hs 126), -, 05.09.1939 (Piotrkowice), M. Emmerling, „Kampfflieger“, pp 103 – 104, Lt. Eric baron von Loudon „Meine Gefangenschaft im Polenfeldzug 1939“ 08.09.1996
Schmarke, -, -, Maj., Kdr. II./I.R.93(mot.), 13. Div.(mot.), 07 or 08.09.1939 (Żarki), Lexikon der Wehrmacht

And replace some of the old ones by:
Schomburg Rudolf, 11.07.1908, Hpt. Sturmf., -, -, 15.09.1939, VB
Schomburg Rudolf, 11.07.1908, Hpt. Sturmf. [Obersturmführer], Adj. SS Standarte “Germania”, 15.09.1939 (Mużyłowice bei Jaworow), VB, R. Dalecki "Armia Karpaty 1939"
Koeppen Heinrich, 10.01.1890, Ob. Sturmb. F., Kdr. III. Sturmbann, SS-Rgt. Germania, 17.09.1939 (Jaworow), VB
Wasn't he KIA on 15.09.1939 - also in Mużyłowice?
Wagner Hans-Jürgen, 09.09.1907, Hptm. i. G. (VB: Maj.), [Ib], [8. Div.], 28.09.1939 (Klinik Zamosc), VB
According to "Die Geschichte der 8.(oberschlesisch-sudetendeutschen) Infanterie-/Jäger-Division 1935 - 1945" he was KIA on 20.09 (but maybe this is the WIA date - anyway, we should add this date), and he was Rittm. (but this is similar to Hauptmann).
Hoehne, -, Obstlt., [Kdr. I./I. R. 73], [19. Div], 01.09.1939 (?), Knobelsdorff (Geschichte der niedersächsischen 19. Panzer-Division 1939 - 1945)
Let's add the place of his death - bei Napoleon.
Kaempf (gem. StB 1938, jedoch fälschlich: Kempf) Robert, 29.12.1906, Rittm., Kdr. 6. Schwd./K. Sch. R. 4, 1. lei. Div., 10.09.1939 (Ryczywol), VB
And according to ww2 day by day he was KIA on 09.09.1939.
Roettig Wilhelm, 25.07.1888, Gen. Maj. d. Pol., Bfh. d. Orpo b. AOK 10, - 10.09.1939
Roettig Wilhelm, 25.07.1888, Gen. Maj. d. OrPo. [OrPo, not Pol. as far as I know - Domen], SS-Brigadeführer, Bfh. [Bfh ? - not Gen. Maj. ? - Domen] d. Orpo b. AOK 10, Generalinspekteur der Gendarmerie und Schutzpolizei, 10.09.1939 - 14:15 (Dęborzeczka bei Opoczno) - first general to be KIA in WW2.

Photo of the place where Roettig was KIA - Dęborzeczka, along the road Opoczno - Inowłódz:

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Edit:

Removed Kempf and Butze from the list of new officers (because they are most probably already listed as Kaempf and Putze).
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Njorl » 18 Feb 2009 22:09

Several Fs from VB:
Nachname: Freiherr von Freyberg
Vorname: Burghard
Dienstgrad: Hauptmann
Geburtsdatum: 20.11.1910
Geburtsort: Berlin
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 12.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: b.Okecie - Gut
Nachname: Freudenberg
Vorname: Otto
Dienstgrad: Oberleutnant
Geburtsdatum: 26.05.1915
Geburtsort: Kredenbach
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 06.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Raum Piekary/Tomaszow 45km südw.Warschau
Nachname: Frenzel
Vorname: Ernst
Dienstgrad: Oberleutnant
Geburtsdatum: 27.04.1911
Geburtsort: Kiel
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 22.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Lomianki
Nachname: Dr. Frank
Vorname: Adolf
Dienstgrad: Major
Geburtsdatum: 14.06.1901
Geburtsort: Graz
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 12.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Borownica
Nachname: Franke
Vorname: Rudolf
Dienstgrad: Rittmeister
Geburtsdatum: 04.12.1906
Geburtsort: Bad Kösen
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 08.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Pogorzale
Not sure about this one - a bit late for Polenfeldzug. He could have even died of heart attack...
Nachname: Franz
Vorname: Ernst Karl
Dienstgrad: Hauptmann
Geburtsdatum: 08.12.1882
Geburtsort: Königsberg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 01.11.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Filipo oder Suwalki Standortlaz.
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 18 Feb 2009 22:21

Or he could die of wounds - we already had got few officers who died of wounds as late as in 1940.

For example:
von Loesch (Konrad Julius), 30.12.1899, Oblt., -, -, 17.03.1940 n. Verw. (Charite Berlin), VB (Grab: Lorzendorf, Krs. Namslau), Manstein, Verlorene Siege, S. 54 f.
Btw - when was he wounded? Because it is important. If there is such info available - then let's include it, why not? Not only for him, but for every DoW.
Mühlmann Friedrich, 30.08.1890, Oberst, [Kdr. A. R. 1 (seit 01.04.1939)] (vorm. Kdr. I./A. R. 22), [1. Div.], 03.11.1939 (Rela. II Stettin), VB, StB 1938, RL 1932 (Inh. d. Ritterkr. v. Mil. Sankt Heinrichs-Orden)
WIA on 01.10.1939?

Btw - I have a suggestion:

Maybe let's gather all new officers from Volksbund & other sources (those who are not included yet - for example those listed by Njorl recently - there were quite a lot of them ;)) listed recently (pages 12 - this one) in one post (or few posts - everyone can gather officers from their previous posts) - and then it will be easier to add them ;).

What do you think about that?

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Bernd R » 19 Feb 2009 14:10

If Stauffenberg II is fine with the procedure we had so far - doing the edit lists in the layout choosen, step-by-step - that's fine with me doing the minor work of the page 1 edit. Next edit list will be a bigger one I guess :)
If it comes to a point when the agenda of material "to handle / open" is growing and the access to it in the pages becomes difficult for all I would suggest another idea. We could consider to establish an extra section for that on page 1. Would be the place for the difficult issues also, we can't clarifiy within days and not within 1-2 weeks. At the moment I'm confident we can handle the most of the agenda - page 11 especially - within a relatively short time. On the other hand, does anyone remember OTL Günther Rettelsky, 02.09.1939, Berlin-Charlottenburg, Verb.Offz. RMfVP [Reichs ministry for propaganda] ? (most likely not in Poland).

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 19 Feb 2009 14:58

Albrecht Friedrich, 19.10.1888, Hptm., -, -, 11.09.1939, VB
4. Panzer-Division - KIA in Mszczonów.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Feb 2009 19:59

Bernd, could you please be so kind to add the new ones incl. 2 Schm-Officers, which I were able to pick up from the Volksbund site:

Baunack Wolfram, 03.11.1918, Lt., 9./I. R. 11, 14. Div., 01.09.1939 (b. Pila, Klepaczka), VB
Effler Hans, 26.12.1902, Oblt., -, -, 21.09.1939 (Placowka), VB
Eggerstorff Fritz, 10.01.1919, Lt., -, -, 19.09.1939 (Ilow), VB
Eggert Otto, 11.10.1909, Lt. d. R., -, -, 18.09.1939 (Pogorsch), VB
Ehle Friedrich, 20.05.1897, Hptm., -, -, 08.09.1939 (Waldstück b. Drzewica), VB
Eimer Werner, 22.10.1914, Oblt., -, -, 10.09.1939 (Glowaczow), VB
Eisenreich Fritz, 26.07.1891, Hptm., -, -, 10.09.1939 (Pioscizow), VB
Elvers Karl-Heinz, 31.03.1915, Lt. d. R., -, -, 09.09.1939 (Leczyca), VB
Engewald Richard, 08.02.1902, Lt., -, -, 04.09.1939 (Tschenstochau), VB
Ernst Johann, 11.10.1915, Lt., -, -, 15.09.1939 (Chmielek), VB
Euen Erich Albert Gustav, 08.02.1914, Oblt., -, -, 01.09.1939 (Bhf. Konitz), VB
Dr. Frank Adolf, 14.06.1901, Maj., -, -, 12.09.1939 (Borownica), VB
Franke Rudolf, 04.12.1906, Rittm., -, -, 08.09.1939 (Pogorzale), VB
Frenzel Ernst, 27.04.1911, Oblt., -, -, 22.09.1939 (Lomianki), VB
Freudenberg Otto, 26.05.1915, Oblt., -, -, 06.09.1939 (Rm. Piekary/Tomaszow, 45 km sw. Warschau), VB
Freiherr von Freyberg Burghard, 20.11.1910, Hptm., -, -, 12.09.1939 (b. Okecie – Gut), VB
Schmökel Eitel Karl Erwin, 26.09.1915, Lt., -, -, 28.09.1939 (nordostw. Stanislawowo), VB
Schmücking Friedrich, 13.04.1907, Lt., -, -, 18.09.1939 (Stara Dabrowa), VB
Vogel Horst, 14.02.1915, Lt. d. R., I. R. 101, 14. Div., 04.09.1939 (Maluszyn), VB
Werner Helmut, 22.07.1915, Lt., I. R. 101, 14. Div., 07.09.1939 (Ruda), VB

Furthermore I suggest to replace the old entries by the new ones:
Albrecht Friedrich, 19.10.1888, Hptm., -, -, 11.09.1939 (Mszczonow) , VB
Graf von Bothmer Werner Wilhelm Eduard Egon, 03.05.1916, Lt., 7./K. Sch. R. 8, 3. lei. Div., 06.09.1939, VB
Haupt Alfred, 28.09.1898, Oblt., 6./I.R.73, 19. Div., 01.09.1939 (kein Todesort b. VB, Parzymiechy), VB, O. v. Knobelsdorff, „Geschichte der niedersächsischen 19. Panzer-Division 1939 – 1945“
Dr. Heesch Hermann, 24.10.1893, Hptm. d. R., Kdr. 10./I. R. 73, 19. Div., 25.09.1939, VB, O. v. Knobelsdorff, „Geschichte der niedersächsischen 19. Panzer-Division 1939 – 1945“
Schomburg Rudolf, 11.07.1908, Hpt. Sturmf. [Obersturmführer gem. R. Dalecki], Adj. SS Standarte “Germania”, 15.09.1939 (Nowosiolski, R. Dalecki: Mużyłowice bei Jaworow), VB, R. Dalecki "Armia Karpaty 1939"
Simons Hans, 17.05.1900, Lt. d. R., 5./I. R. 73, 19. Div., 16.09.1939, VB (b. Bronislawy), O. v. Knobelsdorff “19. Panzerdivision”

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Feb 2009 20:26

Domen121 wrote:Could we add the following 9 new entries?:

von Frankenberg und Proschlitz, Alexander, -, Hptm., Adj. 8. Pz.Brig., 5. Pz.Div., 01.09.1939 (Wideki), KTB 5. Pz.Div. BAMA RH 27-5/175 (S. 2)
Flemming, Günter, -, Lt., 13./I.R.368, 207. Div., 19.09.1939 (vor Oxhöft), Lexikon Der Wehrmacht
Köpplin, -, -, Lt., 10./I.R.59, 19. Div., 05.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Kreuser [oder Kleusler], -, -, Lt. [o. Oblt.], Zgf.i. d. 5./I.R.73, 16.09.1939 (battle of Bzura, Bronisławy), ww2 day by day
Lieff, -, -, Oblt., -, 19. Div., 02.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Nebe, -, -, Hptm., Kdr. II./I.R.59, 18.09.1939 (Stefanów), ww2 day by day
Riedinger, -, -, Lt., -, 1. Pz.Div., 02.09.1939, ww2 day by day
Graf Reventlow, Heinrich, -, Lt. [v. Loudon: Oberst], 1.(H)/41 (Heinkel Hs 126), -, 05.09.1939 (Piotrkowice), M. Emmerling, „Kampfflieger“, pp 103 – 104, Lt. Eric baron von Loudon „Meine Gefangenschaft im Polenfeldzug 1939“ 08.09.1996
Schmarke, -, -, Maj., Kdr. II./I.R.93(mot.), 13. Div.(mot.), 07 or 08.09.1939 (Żarki), Lexikon der Wehrmacht
Hi Peter,

please grant one day for further research. Although in my opinion Rittm. v. Prittwitz u. Gaffron is cleared up (no KIA officer is listed in the GHdA although all family members are duly listed there and the list of H. Gru. Nord is clearly giving only WIA for him) ... as some kind of special act in your favour I will go to the archives tomorrow again and invest more monies on this research. Although I consider the Prittwitz list at p. 9 to be complete I will look up in the archives and consult the complete family members list again, to see if I have done a mistake. If not I would suggest to remove v. Prittwitz together with Sinz (KIA 1941 in the Soviet Union) from the list of possible victims because it is in my opinion clear that they do not belong to the Poland 1939 KIA list. I really would like to ask to do me this favour in return.

Furthermore I will look up von Bahrfeldt, von Köckeritz, von Reventlow and von Frankenberg und Proschlitz and von Waldow. So at the weekend we have some more info from the Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels (GHdA)-series.

As regards Flemming I really do think that this Flemming should be the Flemming listed in the list of H. Gru. Nord and the Volksbund with the same date. I do not think that both sources are in error and do think that they both overrule the Lexikon der Wehrmacht entry as regards first name and different coy no. within the same regiment.

As regards Köpplin, Kreuser/Kreusler, Schmarke, Stapff, Willems (not included in Stellenbesetzung 1938) I still hope that we can find the Volksbund entries and still think that there might be misspellings.

As regards Lieff, Nebe, Riedinger (correct spellings counterchecked with Stellenbesetzung 1938) I do hope to find the entries too.

Have a nice evening,

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Feb 2009 20:44

A further one:

Steffen Wilhelm, 27.08.1903, Lt., -, -, 14.09.1939 (Skowieczyn / San), VB

Btw: Thanks Njorl for your continuous input too. Much appreciated.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Glenn2438 » 19 Feb 2009 20:58

Jürgen,

here is Hauptmann Egbert Werner Alexander v. Frankenberg und Proschlitz. Killed in action at Pleß on 1 Sep 1939 by a ricochet. Posthumously promoted to Major.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Bernd R » 19 Feb 2009 21:04

Dear Jürgen,

sounds good and ok to me. Just want to add a short word as it is connected to the "overrule" passage. In the triangle Volksbund - divisional histories (= identical to LdW (and ww2 day by day often) - a third source, and on the background of the HGr Nord files as a fourth, there might be to detect differences of data which are to state on first hand. Details, hard nuts, creating a difficult situation for a listing. There surely will be found a way to handle that (there are already alternatives listed on page 1).
I have found a good and interesting example for that and will present it when I have finished research and checks from all angles. It will show the diffilcuty of data differences at least and I hope that I will be able to proof the accurate data.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 19 Feb 2009 21:06

please grant one day for further research.
Ok ;).
by a ricochet.
He was killed by artillery fire (protective fire of Polish I./6. light AR) according to KTB of 5. Panzer-Division. Oberst Haarde - commander of 8. Panzer-Brigade - was heavily WIA by the same artillery missile.

Soon before that group of Polish infantry under command of sub-lieutenants Scholl and Wiktorowicz from III./20. IR carried out a counter-raid against the Germans, which caused chaos among them - chaos became even bigger when Oberst Haarde was hit - structure of command ceased to exist. Commander of 31. Panzer-Regiment - Oberst Schuckelt - was chosen to replace Haarde. But soon after that Oberst Schuckelt was missing (it is possible that he escaped from his units or something like that, because he was not reported captured by the Poles - and during the night, when previous hard situation of the division calmed down, he was found).

Chaos in the division in the afternoon on 1st of September was even bigger due to some soldiers of Panzer-Regiment 31. who reported being counterattacked by Polish 10. Motorized Brigade - while in fact they were accidentially attacked by one platoon of Polish tankettes from 51 company of reconnaissance tanks, and lost 1 tank immobilized due to this fire and captured by the Poles (the rest of tanks escaped after fire combat).

Also the crew of another German tank from 31. Panzer-Regiment surrendered to the Polish motorcyclist who appeared in front of them, because they thought that behind the motorcycle there were masses of Polish AFVs counterattacking (they had probably heard about that report about the counterattack of Polish 10. Motorized Brigade).

On 1st of September 5. Panzer-Division did not achieve anything and was repulsed under heavy casualties, while fighting against the Polish protruding defensive position of 6. Infantry Division near Pszczyna.
Killed in action at Pleß on 1 Sep 1939
To be more exact - it was near Wideki, but during the battle of Pleß (Pszczyna).
together with Sinz (KIA 1941 in the Soviet Union)
But according to Lexikon der Wehrmacht it was not Sinz who was the commander of Pi.Btl.24, but Major Curt Schille:

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... iBat24.htm

So maybe Schille was KIA.

By the way - do you have got "Wir zogen gegen Polen"? - because I was thinking if there aren't maybe some officers from VII Armee Korps listed / mentioned - especcialy KIA during the battle of Tomaszow Lubelski in late September.

I don't have it unfortunately and I wanted to by it via Allegro but it was quite expensive - and no auction available at the moment.
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Bernd R » 19 Feb 2009 21:49

Kurt Schille is to rule out. He later received the KC (1942) and OL (1944) with Pi.Btl. 24 ; died 1985 in Stuttgart. The LdW entry is to read also with a "double view". He was appointed Kdr. Pi.Btl. 24 much later (as a Major), for example in 1942 (KC) he was Hptm, Chef 3./Pi.Btl. 24.

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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Piotr Kapuscinski » 19 Feb 2009 21:58

Ok.
Furthermore I will look up von Bahrfeldt, von Köckeritz,
Isn't von Köckeritz already found but with different spelling?

Or maybe these are two different persons?
Vogel Horst, 14.02.1915, Lt. d. R., I. R. 101, 14. Div., 04.09.1939 (Maluszyn), VB
Werner Helmut, 22.07.1915, Lt., I. R. 101, 14. Div., 07.09.1939 (Ruda), VB
It seem that these two ones are already present on the master list:
Vogel Horst, 14.02.1915, Lt. d. R., -, -, 04.09.1939, VB
Werner Helmut, 22.07.1915, Lt., -, -, 07.09.1939, VB
PS: If it comes to Wilhelm Fritz Roettig, I checked it and he was certainly Generalmajor der Ordnungspolizei (not Polizei). He was also SS-Oberführer and Generalinspekteur der Gendarmerie und Schutzpolizei. He was KIA on 10.09.1939 - 14:15 (Deborzeczka bei Opoczno).
Borck Karl, 01.02.1915, Oblt., Kdr. 8./I. R. 38, 8. Div., 02.09.1939, VB, „Die Geschichte der 8.(oberschlesisch-sudetendeutschen) Infanterie-/Jäger-Division 1935 - 1945“
We can add also place of his death: Mikołów (German: Nicolai).

Edit:

Let's add also him to the list (as new one):

Stapff, -, -, Lt., -, 2. Pz.Div., 19.09.1939 (Tomaszow), F. J. Strauss, „Die Geschichte der 2. (Wiener) Panzer-Division“, p. 284

And him (posted by Njorl - page 13):
Nachname: Mayr
Vorname: Engelbert
Dienstgrad: Oberleutnant
Geburtsdatum: 12.06.1915
Geburtsort: Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 08.09.1939
Todes-/Vermisstenort: b. Rowne, 1 km westl.Kirche Rowne
And I suggest to add more info on Kruse:
Kruse Günther, 09.02.1917, Oblt., Ord. Offz. Kradschtz.Btl.1, 1. Pz.Div., 08.09.1939 (Kopty at the Weichsel), VB, ww2 day by day
And to add these new officers:

Werner, -, -, Lt., I.R.101, 14. Div., 06.09.1939 (Czarna bei Ruda Maleniecka), Lexikon der Wehrmacht
Confirmations basically we see for three officers from SCHWEIDNITZ. Death notes (Todesanzeigen) were published in MGZ (newspaper) for
Sigurd von Bartenwerffer, Hans Georg von Müller (Kp.Chef) and Leo Lothar Muris in
this compilation Schweidnitz in den Jahren 1934-1939 - Materialien zu einer Stadtgeschichte by Horst Adler http://www.schweidnitz.net/ahnen/Schwei ... 4-1939.pdf (page 47)
The difference to the VB data for Muris is : 20.09.1939 ; Hauptmann d.R. (Landgerichtsrat)

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von Bartenwerffer Sigurd, -, Lt., -, -, 03.09.1939 (??), schweidnitz.net (he is certainly not included yet)
von Müller Hans Georg, -, Hptm., Kp. Chef, -, 03.10.1939 (??), schweidnitz.net (is he present already?)

What about him?:

Westphal, Hans-Joachim, Hptm, 00.00.1939

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Domen

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PS:

Polish POWs heavily wounded during the battle of Kock were transported to the hospital in Radom after the end of the battle.

20 of them died of wounds there.

And we have got three German officers who died in hospital in Radom after 06.10.1939:
Dr. Heber Karl, 23.06.1891, Maj., -, -, 07.10.1939 (Kr. Laz. Radom), VB
Röth Alois, 24.05.1893, Hptm., -, -, 13.10.1939 (Kr. Laz. Radom), VB
Dr. Raupach Paul, 13.01.1900, Oberarzt, -, -, 14.10.1939 (Kr. Laz. Radom), VB
Maybe they were wounded during the battle of Kock - as those 20 DoW Polish soldiers?

I have also found these 3 officers:
Bachinger Rudolf, 10.03.1916, Lt., -, -, 02.10.1939, VB
Boeckmann Fritz, 28.01.1945, Lt., -, -, 02.10.1939 (Kr. Laz.), VB
Altmann Alexander, Lt., 11.03.1914, -, -, 04.10.1939, VB
Kock?

And here all of those who died after 06.10.1939 (except these 3 from Radom) from our master list and from the rest of the thread:
Arnholdt Karl, 08.04.1910, Lt., -, -, 18.10.1939 (Kr. Laz), VB
Baum Hans Georg, 22.09.1912, Oblt., -, -, 01.11.1939, VB
Dr. von Einsiedel Detlev, 09.03.1902, Oblt., -, -, 19.10.1939, VB
Franz Ernst Karl, 08.12.1882, Hptm., -, -, 01.11.1939 (Filipo oder Suwalki Standortlaz.)
Geisler Adolf, 08.01.1916, Lt., -, -, 26.10.1939, VB
Dr. Götzl Eugen, 23.02.1895, Stabsarzt, -, -, 08.10.1939 (Feldlaz.), VB
Haarberg Adolf, 07.08.1885, Obstlt., -, -, 14.10.1939 (Feldlaz.), VB
Hellmann Ernst, 26.02.1907, Hptm., -, -, 10.10.1939 (Lodz), VB
von Loesch (Konrad Julius), 30.12.1899, Oblt., -, -, 17.03.1940 n. Verw. (Charite Berlin), VB (Grab: Lorzendorf, Krs. Namslau), Manstein, Verlorene Siege, S. 54 f.
Mühlmann Friedrich, 30.08.1890, Oberst, [Kdr. A. R. 1 (seit 01.04.1939)] (vorm. Kdr. I./A. R. 22), [1. Div.], 03.11.1939 (Rela. II Stettin), VB, StB 1938, RL 1932 (Inh. d. Ritterkr. v. Mil. Sankt Heinrichs-Orden)
Rudat Otto, 09.10.1901, Oblt., -, -, 11.10.1939 (Feld. Laz. Leslau), VB
Weber Hanns, 08.12.1900, Maj., -, -, 07.10.1939 (Feldlaz. Lublin), VB
Dr.Wenzel, Bruno, 23.09.1893, Maj., -, -, 11.12.39 (Leignitz), VB
von Wienskowski Christian, 01.11.1910, Oblt., -, -, 10.10.1939 (Kr. Laz. 3/509, i. Marienwerder), VB
[Dipl. Ing.] Wimmer Günther Karl Waldemar, 15.02.1899, Obstlt., [Kdr. II./A. R. mot. 75], [3. Pz. Div.], 12.12.1939 (Berlin), VB (ohne Dipl. Ing.), StB 1938, fraglich ob. Verursachung d. Feldzug gg. Polen
There are also many officers without their exact death date given (mainly from Army Group "North") - both those from the master list and those mentioned in this thread but not listed on page 1 yet:
von Bahrfeldt (mglw. Joachim), -, Oblt., Pz. Lehrabt., 3. Pz. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord (fälschlich von Bahrfeld)
Bredowski, -, Lt., 10./A. R. 161, [61. Div.], -, H. Gru. Nord
Dietrich, -, Oblt., 3./Pi. 651, -, -, H. Gru. Nord
Förseter, -, -, Rittm., -, -, -, -
Fritz, -, Hptm., I./Flak. Rgt. 61, -, -, H. Gru. Nord
Geisler, -, Oblt., A. A. 20, 20. [mot.] Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Gichtmeyer, -, Lt. d. R., I. R. 3, 21. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Grodde, -, Lt. d. R, 1./I. R. 23, 11. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord.
Haase, -, Lt., -, 2. [mot.] Div., -, H. Gru. Nord (mglw. ident mit Eduard H. od Lothar Gustav H.)
Haase, -, Lt., I./P. R. 10, -, -, H. Gru. Nord (mglw. ident mit Eduard H. od Lothar Gustav H., vermutl. Lothar Gustav)
Helke Willi [bei Volksbund falsch für: Nelke, siehe N]
Herwig, -, Lt., I. R. [mot.] 86, 10. Pz. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Kahl in der Liste H. Gru. Nord falsch für: Thal, siehe T][
Klockmann, -, Lt. d. R., I. R. [mot.] 90, 20. [mot.] Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Koller, -, Lt., 4./I. R. 346, 217. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord.
Kothe, -, Lt., -, 2. [mot.] Div., -, H. Gru. Nord (entweder Hans Joachim oder Heinrich)
Kothe, -, Lt. d. R., I. R. [mot.] 86, 10. Pz. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord (entweder Hans Joachim oder Heinrich)
von Kraue [vermutlich von Krause Ernst], -, Lt., Pz. R. 5, 3. Pz. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Krause, -, Oblt. d. R., -, 2. [mot.] Div., -, H. Gru. Nord (mglw. ident mit Karl oder Kurt)
Lippke, -, Oblt., 2./Sp. Kp. 131, Gr. Brand, -, H. Gru. Nord
Mühlens, -, Lt., A. A. 1, 1. Kav. Brig., -, H. Gru. Nord, StB 1938
Leutn. d. R. Nette Zugfuhrer 1e. Zug Rgt.-Stab (Panzer-Regiment 3.)
Preisch, -, Lt., I. R. 2, [11. Div.], -, H. Gru. Nord
Scheppl, -, Lt., 2./A. A. 11, 11. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Schmarbach, -, Lt., A. A. 1, -, -, H. Gru. Nord
Schneider, -, Oblt., Pi. Btl. 1, [1. Div.], -, H. Gru. Nord
Tegtmeyer, -, Lt., A. A. 21, 21. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Timm, -, Lt. d. R., 2./I. R. 162, 61. Div., -, H. Gru. Nord
Westphal, Hans-Joachim, Hptm, 00.00.1939
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Re: Poland 1939: KIA High ranking officers

Post by Bernd R » 20 Feb 2009 12:05

The Master list is updated per the posts by Stauffenberg II from 19 Feb, 19:59 and 20:44. 19 new - defined data for Vogel and Werner - new total : 644.
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