Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Rossano » 17 Jan 2018 17:24

Hello
There was a "Schule f. Fahnenjunker der Pz.Truppen" first in Wünsdorf then in Ohrdruf and later in Groß Glienicke. Is it known from/to when it (officially as such) exhisted ?
There was also a "Schule f. Fahnenjunker der Pz.Truppen" in Zossen. Is it known from/to when it (officially as such) exhisted ?
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Jan-Hendrik » 22 Jan 2018 13:42

Eisenbahnpionierschule Rehagen-Klausdorf :
Kdr :
…1939 - 12.11.1940 - Oberstlt. Dr. Dipl. Ing. Freidrich (Fritz) Stammbach
Kdr. 20.05.1940 (school was founded)- 12.11.1940
21.11.1940- 20.07.1942 Oberst Friedrich Kusin
20.07.1942- end GL Hans von Donat

Staff mid 1943:

Adj. Hauptmann ? Liebisch

Leiter Vorschriftenstelle OTL ? Gnau

Leiter Abt. Kriegsauswertung Major ? Oehler

Lehrer Algebra, Statistik, Vermessung Hptm. ? Geile

Lehrer Eisb.Pioniertaktik Hptm. ? Sonntag

Lehrer Taktik Major ? Görres

Lehrer mil. Ausbildung Olt. ? v.d. Osten-Sacken

Source:

Evalution by Hans-Georg Kampe, sent to me many, many years ago.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Dave Danner » 29 Jun 2018 22:25

Can anyone make out the names of the officers who signed on the second page of this Vorschlag?

Oberst ____, Kommandeur, Lehrstab A der Artillerieschule II

Generalleutnant ______, Kommandeur, Artillerieschule II

The GL signature doesn't really look like Philipp, but I suppose it could be.

The bottom signature is Walter Kuntze.
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Rossano » 01 Jul 2018 10:19

Hello Dave
Effectively GL. Philipp was on 7.2.44 Kdr. of the school (and that must be his signature…)
As Kdr. of Lehrstab A I have from 1.2.44 (but as the doc. is dated 23.1.44 it could be that he took over the post earlier ?) Oberst Ernst (although the signature looks more like Kunz……)
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Nov 2018 11:49

Dmitrij 2 wrote:
20 Jun 2008 07:02

The corrected information

Schießschule der Panzertruppen in Putlos
Kdr.
10.11.1938 – 1.05.1942 – Oberstlt. / Oberst (1.08.1941) Ewald Kraeber (At the same time, Delegated with the Leadership of the Panzer-Regiment 33 – 31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941)
31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941 – Oberst Hans Joachim von Köppen (Delegated the Command)


Panzer-Regiment 33
Kdr.
00.08.1940 – 3.10.1941 – Oberst Hans Joachim von Köppen (At the same time, Delegated with the Leadership of the Schießschule der Panzertruppen – 31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941)
31.05.1941 – 26.09.1941 – Oberst Ewald Kraeber (Delegated the Command)

Chess castling :) :) :)



Source :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=130415
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... r/PR33.htm
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German Cross in Gold
Köppen von, Hans Joachim, 24.12.1941, Oberstleutnant, Pz.Rgt. 33
Kraeber, Ewald, 18.10.1941, Oberst, Pz.Rgt. 33
This exchange of commands effective 01.06.1941 between Kraeber (Kdr. Sch. Lehrg.) and von Köppen (Kdr. Pz. R. 33) took place in the same PV (29.05.1941) with which v. Lenski and v. Vaerst exchanged commands. So the goal was to task officers from the rear with commands in front. However whilst the exchange of von Lenski and von Vaerst was done with "Beauftragung", the exchange of von Köppen and von Kraeber was done with "Ernennung" (appointment).

In the PV of 22.09.1941 effective 01.09.1941 Kraeber and v. Koeppen exchanged back to their former positions.

So it should read:

Sch. Lehrg./Pz. Tr. Sch. (Putlos):

b. 09.11.1938: Dipl. Ing. Baumgart
10.11.1938-31.05.1941: Kraeber
01.06.1941-31.08.1941: v. Köppen
01.09.1941: Kraeber

Kdr. Pz. R. 33:

b. 05.08.1940: Conze
06.08.1940-31.05.1941: von Köppen
01.06.1941-31.08.1941: Kraeber
01.09.1941-12.10.1941: von Köppen
13.10.1941: Siebert

Hope this helps!

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by iggy88 » 03 Apr 2019 04:04

According to HPA PV of 21 Jun 1940, Ewald Kraeber (Kommandeur der Schießlehrgänge an der Panzertruppenschule) exchanged positions with Hans Voigt (Kommandeur, Panzer-Regiment 4) from 10 Jun 1940 until 31 Jul 1940.
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Rossano » 03 Apr 2019 06:46

Bravo Todd
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by iggy88 » 03 Apr 2019 22:24

According to HPA PV of 30 Nov 1940, Obst. Paul Matic von Dravodol was named Kommandeur der Wehrkreis-Reit- und Fahrschule VIII in Militsch mit Wirkung vom 05 Dec 1940.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Rossano » 04 Apr 2019 06:36

Very good Todd
All DALs read "Matić-Dravodol"
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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by iggy88 » 04 Apr 2019 06:42

Rossano,
The PV also reads "Matić-Dravodol". I was going by an earlier post in which it was said that the correct name is Matic von Dravodol. But, I really don't know which name is correct.

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by askropp » 06 Jul 2019 14:03

Update:

Heeres-Unteroffiziersschule (Panzergrenadiere) Arnswalde / Putlos
25.09.1943 - 20.03.1944 O Ernst von Bauer
20.03.1944 - 15.09.1944 O Gerhard Wißmann
15.09.1944 - Jan 1945 Maj Günter Kaldrack ( gef. 26.1.1945)
Jan 1945 - Ende ? ? ?

Can anybody enlighten me about Wißmanns next assignment?
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I read this as "vers. Kdr. d. Sch. d. Pz. Tr. als stellv. Kdr.", but the Kdr was always a general (Hauenschild, then Westhoven).
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Er ist wieder da. Aber auch dieses Mal wird er nicht siegen!

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Re: Kdre / personnel der Kriegs- und Waffenschulen der Wehrmacht

Post by Rossano » 06 Jul 2019 15:30

Hello Askropp
1) Schule was "f. Pz.Truppen"
2) "vom" Bauer correct
Rgds., Rossano

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