Oberst von Sannow bio request
Oberst von Sannow bio request
All the info I have is he took over command in Vannes in the summer 0f 1941.
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Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
Hello,
I may have a candidate now. Could it be Oberst Max von Sannow-Boettcher?
The good thing is the 'von Sannow' family belongs to the new nobility (nobilitated just in 1871) so there are not many of them around. I've found a few lines on him in Priesdorff (1942, p.437):
Otherwise almost nothing on him, just a small entry in Wegner & Bradley (1993, p.627):
Max Boettcher was a grandson of Prussian General Ferdinand von Sannow who'd been nobilitated for bravery in 1871. His father was Generalmajor Alexander Boettcher. Since the marriage of Hans von Sannow, the only son of Ferdinand von Sannow remained childless he adopted his nephew Max Boettcher in 1923 to keep the family name alive. (A practice not uncommon back then.) From then on Max called himself Max von Sannow-Boettcher though the German nobility association didn't regard it as legit.
He was the father of Major Kurt Alexander von Sannow-Boettcher who was KIA as CO of 39th anti-tank battalion in North Africa on Nov. 23rd, 1941.
In 1937 Max von Sannow-Boettcher retired as Oberst z.V. and commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Marburg/Lahn [military district administration Marburg/Lahn]. He may have been reactivated in 1940/41 for a bit of service in the military occupation administration in France. This happened to a lot of oldtimers in those years. With regard to his age it's improbable that he took over a combat unit in 1940/41.
Does somebody else have more on him or for the parallel question of Punch199 here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1232594? about Sannow's role in Vannes in 1941?
References:
von Priesdorff, Kurt
Soldatisches Führertum, Vol.9
Hanseatische Verlagsanstalt, 1941
Wegner, Günter; Bradley, Dermot
Die Stellenbesetzung der aktiven Regimenter, Bataillone und Abteilungen von der Stiftung bzw.
Aufstellung bis zum 26. August 1939.
Biblio-Verlag; Osnabrück; 1993
Best regards
Torsten
I may have a candidate now. Could it be Oberst Max von Sannow-Boettcher?
The good thing is the 'von Sannow' family belongs to the new nobility (nobilitated just in 1871) so there are not many of them around. I've found a few lines on him in Priesdorff (1942, p.437):
http://tinyurl.com/ac5aags[...]
Er erfreute sich der besonderen Gunst seines Königs, die er sich durch seine Tüchtigkeit und seinen
offenen soldatischen Charakter verdient hatte. Seine Sorge war die Erhaltung seines Namens, da die
Ehe seines Sohnes kinderlos blieb. Dieser, Hans von Sannow, der als Oberst 1926 in Wiesbaden
starb, nahm deshalb den Sohn seiner Schwester, die mit einem General Boettcher verheiratet war,
an Kindes Statt an. Max von Sannow-Boettcher, 1923 von seinem Onkel zur Erhaltung des Namens
mit dieser Namensbezeichnung adoptiert, lebt als Oberst z.V. in Wiesbaden und war zuletzt bis
1937 Kommandeur des Wehrbezirkskommandos Marburg an der Lahn, er ist verheiratet mit einer
Tochter des Obersten von der Marwitz. Sein Sohn Kurt Alexander von Sannow-Boettcher war
Hauptmann und Kompagniechef in einer Panzerabwehrabteilung im Feldzuge gegen Polen und
erhielt das Eiserne Kreuz II. Im Feldzug gegen Frankreich 1940 war er Ordonnanzoffizier eines
Panzerkorps, kam dann zu einem Generalstabslehrgang der Kriegsakademie und ist seit
22.12.1940 als Generalstabsoffizier zu einem Panzerkoprs kommandiert. Er ist mit einer Tochter
des Generals von Hanneken verheiratet.
Otherwise almost nothing on him, just a small entry in Wegner & Bradley (1993, p.627):
http://tinyurl.com/aby8zrgv. Sannow-Boettcher, Max 18.04.1877 - 25.10.1956
Max Boettcher was a grandson of Prussian General Ferdinand von Sannow who'd been nobilitated for bravery in 1871. His father was Generalmajor Alexander Boettcher. Since the marriage of Hans von Sannow, the only son of Ferdinand von Sannow remained childless he adopted his nephew Max Boettcher in 1923 to keep the family name alive. (A practice not uncommon back then.) From then on Max called himself Max von Sannow-Boettcher though the German nobility association didn't regard it as legit.
He was the father of Major Kurt Alexander von Sannow-Boettcher who was KIA as CO of 39th anti-tank battalion in North Africa on Nov. 23rd, 1941.
In 1937 Max von Sannow-Boettcher retired as Oberst z.V. and commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Marburg/Lahn [military district administration Marburg/Lahn]. He may have been reactivated in 1940/41 for a bit of service in the military occupation administration in France. This happened to a lot of oldtimers in those years. With regard to his age it's improbable that he took over a combat unit in 1940/41.
Does somebody else have more on him or for the parallel question of Punch199 here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1232594? about Sannow's role in Vannes in 1941?
References:
von Priesdorff, Kurt
Soldatisches Führertum, Vol.9
Hanseatische Verlagsanstalt, 1941
Wegner, Günter; Bradley, Dermot
Die Stellenbesetzung der aktiven Regimenter, Bataillone und Abteilungen von der Stiftung bzw.
Aufstellung bis zum 26. August 1939.
Biblio-Verlag; Osnabrück; 1993
Best regards
Torsten
Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
Hello everybody
After von Knauer as FK.750 there was from 6.41 Oberst (later Gen.Maj.) Ritter von Reiß.
Oberst von Sannow was 2-8.42 FK.528.
It´d be interesting to know Sannow´s assignements in 40/41
Regards, Rossano
After von Knauer as FK.750 there was from 6.41 Oberst (later Gen.Maj.) Ritter von Reiß.
Oberst von Sannow was 2-8.42 FK.528.
It´d be interesting to know Sannow´s assignements in 40/41
Regards, Rossano
Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
Hello
Just some more informations on Kurt von Sannow:
He was not KIA as Kdr. PJA 39 (Maj.
Jansa was Kdr. PJA 39 until 26.11.41) but MIA as staff officer of DAK.
He (Kurt von Sannow) was shortly (beginning 1940) in the staff of XXXIX. AK mot. as ordonn. officer.
His personal card strangely reads "7-8.40 Gen.St.Lehrg." and "10.40 z. Gen.St. versetzt".
Here I´m perplexed because there was no Gen.St.Lehrg. 7. - 8.40 at the Kriegsakademie as the 2nd. Lehrg. took place 4-6.40 (versetzt z. Gen.St. 10.41) and the 3rd 10.40-1.41 (which is excluded, too late). So I believe it must correctly read "4-6.40 Gen.St.Lehrg." "10.41 versetzt z. Gen.St.".Your opinion please?
Regards,
Rossano
Just some more informations on Kurt von Sannow:
He was not KIA as Kdr. PJA 39 (Maj.
Jansa was Kdr. PJA 39 until 26.11.41) but MIA as staff officer of DAK.
He (Kurt von Sannow) was shortly (beginning 1940) in the staff of XXXIX. AK mot. as ordonn. officer.
His personal card strangely reads "7-8.40 Gen.St.Lehrg." and "10.40 z. Gen.St. versetzt".
Here I´m perplexed because there was no Gen.St.Lehrg. 7. - 8.40 at the Kriegsakademie as the 2nd. Lehrg. took place 4-6.40 (versetzt z. Gen.St. 10.41) and the 3rd 10.40-1.41 (which is excluded, too late). So I believe it must correctly read "4-6.40 Gen.St.Lehrg." "10.41 versetzt z. Gen.St.".Your opinion please?
Regards,
Rossano
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Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
Hello Rossano,
I cannot say anything about your other observations due to lack of any material about the courses for Generalstabsoffiziere on my part but going by gut feeling you're right.
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my mistake. Since he appeared just as a side figure in Priesdorff's essay I just glanced very hastily over http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic.php?p=200296 and http://www.volksbund.de (where he's noted as Curt-Alexander von Sannow) and didn't even notice he's actually MIA in another function.Rossano wrote:Just some more informations on Kurt von Sannow:
He was not KIA as Kdr. PJA 39
(Maj. Jansa was Kdr. PJA 39 until 26.11.41) but [Sannow-Boettcher is , Heimatschuss] MIA as staff officer of DAK.
I cannot say anything about your other observations due to lack of any material about the courses for Generalstabsoffiziere on my part but going by gut feeling you're right.
Best regards
Torsten
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Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
ch. Oberst zV Max von Sannow-Böttcher was first FK 750 (Vannes) april/march 41 then FK 605 (La Roche-Guyon) may /august 41 then Führer Reserve WBK XIIHeimatschuss wrote: ↑11 Feb 2013, 20:48Hello,
I may have a candidate now. Could it be Oberst Max von Sannow-Boettcher?
The good thing is the 'von Sannow' family belongs to the new nobility (nobilitated just in 1871) so there are not many of them around. I've found a few lines on him in Priesdorff (1942, p.437):
http://tinyurl.com/ac5aags[...]
Er erfreute sich der besonderen Gunst seines Königs, die er sich durch seine Tüchtigkeit und seinen
offenen soldatischen Charakter verdient hatte. Seine Sorge war die Erhaltung seines Namens, da die
Ehe seines Sohnes kinderlos blieb. Dieser, Hans von Sannow, der als Oberst 1926 in Wiesbaden
starb, nahm deshalb den Sohn seiner Schwester, die mit einem General Boettcher verheiratet war,
an Kindes Statt an. Max von Sannow-Boettcher, 1923 von seinem Onkel zur Erhaltung des Namens
mit dieser Namensbezeichnung adoptiert, lebt als Oberst z.V. in Wiesbaden und war zuletzt bis
1937 Kommandeur des Wehrbezirkskommandos Marburg an der Lahn, er ist verheiratet mit einer
Tochter des Obersten von der Marwitz. Sein Sohn Kurt Alexander von Sannow-Boettcher war
Hauptmann und Kompagniechef in einer Panzerabwehrabteilung im Feldzuge gegen Polen und
erhielt das Eiserne Kreuz II. Im Feldzug gegen Frankreich 1940 war er Ordonnanzoffizier eines
Panzerkorps, kam dann zu einem Generalstabslehrgang der Kriegsakademie und ist seit
22.12.1940 als Generalstabsoffizier zu einem Panzerkoprs kommandiert. Er ist mit einer Tochter
des Generals von Hanneken verheiratet.
Otherwise almost nothing on him, just a small entry in Wegner & Bradley (1993, p.627):
http://tinyurl.com/aby8zrgv. Sannow-Boettcher, Max 18.04.1877 - 25.10.1956
Max Boettcher was a grandson of Prussian General Ferdinand von Sannow who'd been nobilitated for bravery in 1871. His father was Generalmajor Alexander Boettcher. Since the marriage of Hans von Sannow, the only son of Ferdinand von Sannow remained childless he adopted his nephew Max Boettcher in 1923 to keep the family name alive. (A practice not uncommon back then.) From then on Max called himself Max von Sannow-Boettcher though the German nobility association didn't regard it as legit.
He was the father of Major Kurt Alexander von Sannow-Boettcher who was KIA as CO of 39th anti-tank battalion in North Africa on Nov. 23rd, 1941.
In 1937 Max von Sannow-Boettcher retired as Oberst z.V. and commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Marburg/Lahn [military district administration Marburg/Lahn]. He may have been reactivated in 1940/41 for a bit of service in the military occupation administration in France. This happened to a lot of oldtimers in those years. With regard to his age it's improbable that he took over a combat unit in 1940/41.
Does somebody else have more on him or for the parallel question of Punch199 here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p1232594? about Sannow's role in Vannes in 1941?
References:
von Priesdorff, Kurt
Soldatisches Führertum, Vol.9
Hanseatische Verlagsanstalt, 1941
Wegner, Günter; Bradley, Dermot
Die Stellenbesetzung der aktiven Regimenter, Bataillone und Abteilungen von der Stiftung bzw.
Aufstellung bis zum 26. August 1939.
Biblio-Verlag; Osnabrück; 1993
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Torsten
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Georges
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Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
Hello Georges
I come back to him because I noted that You wrote just above :
ch. Oberst zV Max von Sannow-"Böttcher" was first FK 750 (Vannes) april/march 41 then .........(etc.)
In PV there are a couple of pages listing him as ...."-Böttcher" indeed, BUT in PV there are other pages listing him as "....-Boettcher", and I believe that "-Boettcher" is correct (and obviously "-Böttcher" is wrong). Do You agree ?
Rgds., Rossano
I come back to him because I noted that You wrote just above :
ch. Oberst zV Max von Sannow-"Böttcher" was first FK 750 (Vannes) april/march 41 then .........(etc.)
In PV there are a couple of pages listing him as ...."-Böttcher" indeed, BUT in PV there are other pages listing him as "....-Boettcher", and I believe that "-Boettcher" is correct (and obviously "-Böttcher" is wrong). Do You agree ?
Rgds., Rossano
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Re: Oberst von Sannow bio request
of course it's von Sannow-Boettcher. Sometimes I use "Böttcher" (ö for oe) which is equivalent but not correct.
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