Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

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Re: Request for identification

Post by ttvon » 24 Nov 2008 09:05

Dieter Zinke wrote:
ttvon wrote:Who is the officer with von Schobert?
This is surely Ritter von Epp!

Dieter Z.
Hi,Thank you very much!
But I mean who the officer is?
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Re: Request for identification

Post by Elwyn W » 26 Nov 2008 00:50

Gen #6 from Time-Life colour pic was Petzel.

Given up on Dransfeld -- found 1 blurry pics of Dransfeld and another of suspected Dransfeld. Both with WW1 Observer Badge and no Commenerative Flying Badge

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Gareth Collins » 26 Nov 2008 02:55

freiherr wrote:Gen #6 from Time-Life colour pic was Petzel.

Given up on Dransfeld -- found 1 blurry pics of Dransfeld and another of suspected Dransfeld. Both with WW1 Observer Badge and no Commenerative Flying Badge

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What about Alfred Haubold for the Luftwaffe officer (#5)?

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Elwyn W » 26 Nov 2008 03:03

Wouldn't be Geisler I am afraid as he had no Saxon Albert Order and he had a marine pilot badge.

Have this tiny pic of Fahnert form Alex by elimination
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... ybego3.jpg

He had Saxon Albert Order and Commemorative Flyers badge. Biblio pic has jaw and ears that fit. This tiny pic shows a bigger nose.

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Re: Request for identification

Post by graveland » 26 Nov 2008 13:11

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Hi,

In my opinion...

1) Generalfeldmarschall Erhard MILCH
2) Generaloberst Hans-Jürgen STUMPFF
3) Generaloberst Ernst UDET
4) Admiral Max BASTIAN
5) General der Luftnachrichtentruppe Friedrich FAHNERT
6) General der Artillerie Walter PETZEL
7) General der Infanterie Hermann von HANNECKEN
8) Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm LIST
9) General der Flieger Friedrich CHRISTIANSEN
10) Generaloberst Kurt STUDENT

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Gareth Collins » 26 Nov 2008 14:25

Gregg I think you're absolutely spot on with those. Do Fahnert's known awards match up? Are there any other pics at the same event of a different angle to show the officers hidden?

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Re: Request for identification

Post by ttvon » 26 Nov 2008 15:01

Hi,graveland

But I think 6) is General der Pioniere Alfred Jacob

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Elwyn W » 26 Nov 2008 15:15

Agreed on everything except ranks mentioned were highest achieved, not ranks on 20.4.39.

BTW, Hanneken was Haupt Abteilung Leiter z Reichswirtschaftsministerium then and ABR website translates Bastian as being President of the Reichs Welfare and Supply Court. Were these the same entity?

Sent SOS to Jürgen already.... waiting for him to confirm on Fahnert's medal bar

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Duchamp » 26 Nov 2008 16:05

Thank you all for your effort with this picture, I agree with the identification but I don't think number 8 is Wilhelm LIST and number 10 maybe could be Albert Kesselring

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Re: Request for identification

Post by graveland » 26 Nov 2008 18:23

Gareth and Freiherr,

Here are Fahnert´s decorations that I know of...hope this helps out!:

- Deutsches Kreuz in Silber: am 07.12.1942 als Generalleutnant und Höherer Nachrichtenführer beim Luftflotten-Kommando 1
- Südwestafrikadenkmünze in Bronze
- Königl. Preuss. Kronen-Orden IV. Klasse
- Königl. Preuss. Flugzeugführer-Abzeichen
- EK II Klasse
- EK I Klasse
- Ritterkreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern und mit der Krone des Königl. Sächsischen Albrechts-Ordens
- k.u.k. Österr. Militär-Verdienstkreuz III. Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration
- Königl. Preuss. Flieger Erinnerungs-Abzeichen
- Königl. Sächsisches Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
- Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer
- Dienstauszeichnung IV. Klasse
- Dienstauszeichnung III. Klasse
- Dienstauszeichnung II. Klasse
- Dienstauszeichnung I. Klasse
- Spange zum EK II. Klasse
- Spange zum EK I. Klasse
- Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. und II. Klasse mit Schwertern

By the way, sorry for the highest ranks, Freiherr.

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Gareth Collins » 26 Nov 2008 20:34

I think Fahnert is the prime suspect but I would not rule out Haubold completwly. My only question regarding Fahnert is his position in the picture. I am not sure why he'd be where he is.

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Elwyn W » 27 Nov 2008 19:28

Hi Gareth,

I think it is pretty safe to assume it was not Haubold. Haubold did not have the Sachsen Dienstauszeichnungskreuz (you can see man in question definitely had two green-white-green ribbons). He also had the highest award from Saxony: the St Heinrichs Order. That is a very distintive looking medal. I I am not sure about 1939 but before 1939 that it would for sure be worn around the neck.

Haubold also was a Flak general never having flow a plane before, so no Commemorative Flyer's Badge for him. There were a few blurry pics of Haubold for sale on Ebay not long ago. He was a very stocky man.

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Re: Request for identification

Post by Gareth Collins » 27 Nov 2008 20:19

Good. That only leave our signalsman!

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Re: Request for identification

Post by bake » 29 Nov 2008 16:34

Who is this LW officer with Hitler ?
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Re: Request for identification

Post by Hardigan » 30 Nov 2008 16:41

Hello

These pictures are in the book 'Totenkopf' of Charles Trang with the caption that this Hptm. I.G. Schultz of Gen.KdoXXVIII.AK is in conversation with a SS-TK Off. on 30 July '41 . Does anyone know him and can tell me his first name ?

BTW Is this part not filmed for a Wochenschau ?

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