Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by mkrivchenko » 18 May 2019 16:13

GENERALLEUTNANT GRAF - 1943...who this GRAF?
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@11 - Id: Generalleutnant Karl Graf

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@12 - Id: Friedrich Zickwolff

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by iggy88 » 19 May 2019 03:37

AlifRafikKhan wrote:
17 May 2019 23:36
Bern Wimmera wrote:
17 May 2019 21:09
Post #10282 These Names Were given with a similar photo by Gettysimage
5 Axel Michelmann and Hans-Georg von Seidel (Luftwaffe)
6 Walter von Gundell
7 Karl Fischer von Treuenfeld (ss)
8 Russian Major-General Gobalinzow
9 Ernst Mantell
10 Walter Zeiss
11 Hans Runnebaum? (Called Rennibann on other Gettysimage Photo)
12 Hans? Muller
What occasion is this?
I think that this is the similar photo at getty images that Bern Wimmera was referring to. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... /954611880
Note that the officer referred to as Mantell is the same officer whose photo has been posted on AHF for some time now (most recently p. 664, post 9960) and whose identification as Mantell has been disproved. That previous photo was obviously taken at the same time as these two more recent ones (note the line on the building over the officer's left shoulder/head).
Also, #12 is probably not Hans Müller. In his bio, he is reported to have been captured by Soviet troops.
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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by John Toner » 19 May 2019 05:31

@12: Friedrich Zickwolff.

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by mkrivchenko » 19 May 2019 16:05

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@19 Id: Generalmajor Franz Fehn

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@20 Id: Generalmajor Friedrich Stemmermann

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@21 Id: Generalmajor Johannes Erxleben

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by mkrivchenko » 20 May 2019 05:43

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@22 Id: Hans von Obstfelder

Quality sorry....
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Id: Rudolf Hammer
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Post by iggy88 » 20 May 2019 06:11

@22: Hans von Obstfelder

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by Bern Wimmera » 20 May 2019 13:06

Post #10297 Correct, That's the photo! nice ID on Runnebaum
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@19 Gen. Franz Fehn
@21 Gen. Johannes Erxleben or Erzleben, Please help with correct spelling
Page 674 Post #10107 No. 1 is Gen. Hans von Alten
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Post by JakeV » 20 May 2019 16:14

@20 is Generalmajor Friedrich Stemmermann.

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Post by Glenn2438 » 20 May 2019 18:56

@23

Allow me: Rudolf Hammer.

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 21 May 2019 02:40

I think that this is the similar photo at getty images that Bern Wimmera was referring to. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... /954611880
Note that the officer referred to as Mantell is the same officer whose photo has been posted on AHF for some time now (most recently p. 664, post 9960) and whose identification as Mantell has been disproved. That previous photo was obviously taken at the same time as these two more recent ones (note the line on the building over the officer's left shoulder/head).
Also, #12 is probably not Hans Müller. In his bio, he is reported to have been captured by Soviet troops.
So which Müller is this? (Also I couldn't found ROA general with the name Gobalinzow)
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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 21 May 2019 03:08

Nine German Generals and a Russian General who had defected to the Wehrmacht, surrender to the American forces at Bad Aibling in Germany, during World War II, 11th May 1945. From left to right, Air Force Lieutenant-General Kopelins, Russian Major-General Gobalinzow, Lieutenant-General Gundell, Major-General Hans-Georg von Seidel (1891 - 1955), SS Lieutenant-General Karl Fischer von Treuenfeld (1885 - 1946), General Rennibann, General Müller, General Michelmann, General Zeiss and General Mantell. (Photo by Horace Abrahams/Keystone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
I couldn't found the name of Generalleutnant [Luftwaffe] Kopelins.
The correct name of the Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS is Karl von Treuenfeld [NOT Fischer von Treuenfeld !!]]
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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by askropp » 21 May 2019 13:32

Of course there was no "surrender" at Bad Aibling on 11 May. Obviously, this group of generals had been collected in Oberbayern during the last weeks and was now presented to the photographers, probably in the new PoW camp on Fliegerhorst Mietraching. Bad Aibling had been occupied on 1 May.

The ROA general is Alexander V. Golubintsev (1882-1963).

What is the fake Mantel wearing to the left of his EK I and KVK I? To the right is the Reiterabzeichen.
Er ist wieder da. Aber auch dieses Mal wird er nicht siegen!

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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by Kriegsmarine Großadmiral » 21 May 2019 13:45

askropp wrote:
21 May 2019 13:32
Of course there was no "surrender" at Bad Aibling on 11 May. Obviously, this group of generals had been collected in Oberbayern during the last weeks and was now presented to the photographers, probably in the new PoW camp on Fliegerhorst Mietraching. Bad Aibling had been occupied on 1 May.

The ROA general is Alexander V. Golubintsev (1882-1963).

What is the fake Mantel wearing to the left of his EK I and KVK I? To the right is the Reiterabzeichen.
It appears to be the Deutsches Sportabzeichen.
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Re: Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

Post by graveland » 21 May 2019 14:42

Kriegsmarine Großadmiral wrote:
21 May 2019 13:45
askropp wrote:
21 May 2019 13:32
Of course there was no "surrender" at Bad Aibling on 11 May. Obviously, this group of generals had been collected in Oberbayern during the last weeks and was now presented to the photographers, probably in the new PoW camp on Fliegerhorst Mietraching. Bad Aibling had been occupied on 1 May.

The ROA general is Alexander V. Golubintsev (1882-1963).

What is the fake Mantel wearing to the left of his EK I and KVK I? To the right is the Reiterabzeichen.
It appears to be the Deutsches Sportabzeichen.
The Sportabzeichen, that's for sure.

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