Request for Identification of Generals and Admirals

[Max Williams]

Anyone know this General in France, June 1940 please?
Thanks,
Max.

[von thoma]

Seems Franz Halder.

[Max Williams]

Seems Franz Halder.

Anyone confirm that?
Max.

[Elwyn W]

Hi Max,

Unfortunately, I can only confirm the negative. Like Alex said at WAF, not Halder. I checked my HrGr A, B C and FK commanders I have but came up empty handed.

Cheers
Elwyn

[Jeremy Dixon]

I can only confirm that it is NOT Halder

[Jeremy Dixon]

Any idea on my two photos??

[Max Williams]

Hi Max,

Unfortunately, I can only confirm the negative. Like Alex said at WAF, not Halder. I checked my HrGr A, B C and FK commanders I have but came up empty handed.

Cheers
Elwyn

I can only confirm that it is NOT Halder

Morning guys,
I am no expert on Heer Generals, but I do enjoy an ID challenge! You know, the more I look at this General, the more I think he does look like Halder. Same features, same ears, spectacles, moustache, etc. In my (limited) experience on Wehrmacht personnel, I have seen very few photos of Halder in a cap. Are you not being fooled by the camera?
The photo was taken in Reims on either 15th or 16th June 1940. At that time Halder was Chief of the Army General Staff and may well be visiting on the western front.
Also from this same photo are the following details:
On the door of Halder's car and another officer (see below.)
Unless we can come up with a viable alternative, I think it may well be Halder.
Regards,
Max.

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[Max Williams]

I think it is Halder.
Max.

[Jeremy Dixon]

Halder: (he might be wearing his RK, something around his neck ?)

Ritterkreuz 27.10.1939
Generaloberst July 1940

Just looked at another photo of Halder and I have to say the ribbon bar seems to match. Later when he was promoted to Generaloberst he didn't seem to wear the ribbon bar.

I now think its Halder!

[Max Williams]

Halder: (he might be wearing his RK, something around his neck ?)

Ritterkreuz 27.10.1939
Generaloberst July 1940

Still not sure?

Because he is seated and leaning back in the car, his RK may be 'riding high' under the cover of the collar. Are you saying you are now not sure? Compare the ears....an exact match.
Max.

[Jeremy Dixon]

Its him Max I'm sure

[Frech]

Gentlemen!

The general shown on the pic seems to have just one pip on his shoulderboard. This would not fit for Halder. We can see no Ritterkreuz and we would if he had it around his neck. The pic with the door of the car shows us that it belongs to the "Kommandant rückwärtiges Armeegebiet 583". Why should use Halder this car?

So it appears to be the "Kommandant rückwärtiges Armeegebiet 583" which was Generalleutnant z.V. Wolfgang Schmidt-Logan from 10.9.1939 - 20.1.1941. Kroück 583 was under 2. Armee in France in spring 1940. Could this solve the problem?

But I could not find a pic of Schmidt-Logan for comparing.

Regards

Christian

[Ruslan M]

But I could not find a pic of Schmidt-Logan for comparing.

Hi!

Page 247

Posted by Miocid on PP 321 with Steppuhn was Gerhard Fischer. Steppuhn was stellv Kmdr XII Korps. Fischer was stellv Kmdr Div 172, WK XII.

But Fischer became a General, when Steppuhn already retired, isn't it?

Best wishes
Ruslan

[Max Williams]

Gentlemen!

The general shown on the pic seems to have just one pip on his shoulderboard. This would not fit for Halder. We can see no Ritterkreuz and we would if he had it around his neck. The pic with the door of the car shows us that it belongs to the "Kommandant rückwärtiges Armeegebiet 583". Why should use Halder this car?

So it appears to be the "Kommandant rückwärtiges Armeegebiet 583" which was Generalleutnant z.V. Wolfgang Schmidt-Logan from 10.9.1939 - 20.1.1941. Kroück 583 was under 2. Armee in France in spring 1940. Could this solve the problem?

But I could not find a pic of Schmidt-Logan for comparing.

Regards

Christian

Christian,
Thanks for this input.
It is possible that there is more than one star on his epaulette. The RK might be obscured by the tunic collar. As the visiting Chief of the Army General Staff, he could easily be given the use of the car. As Dieter points out, Schmidt-Logan has a very distinctive philtrum, not evident in my photo.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but there are simple explanations to your points. However, I think the comparison between Halder and my General is extremely close (the ears are an exact match) so unless someone can come up with more crucial evidence, such as a 1940 image of Schmidt-Logan, I'm not convinced.
Regards,
Max.