Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (1892-1945)

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by Heimatschuss » 09 Oct 2009, 16:41

Hello,

after glancing over this thread there still seems to be some confusion on how Wintergerst looked like. Perhaps this photo helps:

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Date: 11 Oct 2009 22:13:28 CEST

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by miocid » 29 Dec 2009, 00:36

Navigating through ebay I came accross this picture that I believe depicts WINTERGERST a little bit younger.
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Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (1892-1945)

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Post by askropp » 09 Sep 2017, 23:38

Karl Konrad Wintergerst
*15.04.1892 Schleißheim / Oberbayern [Unter- oder Ober-?]
+xx.xx.1945 [?] (vermisst)

Vater: August Wintergerst, Geheimer Rechnungsrat (+31.07.1935)
Mutter: Betty Wintergerst, geb. Wagenknecht
28.12.1920 Heirat mit Else Sell
1 Tochter (*1928)

25.10.1913 Leutnant
17.01.1917 Oberleutnant
01.07.1922 neues RDA vom 18.04.1916 (40) erhalten
01.02.1923 Hauptmann (21)
01.05.1933 Major (12)
01.01.1936 Oberstleutnant (11)
01.06.1938 Oberst (11)
08.04.1942 Generalmajor mit RDA vom 01.04.1942 (59)
xx.xx.1943 Generalleutnant mit RDA vom 01.04.1943 (10a1)

07.07.1911 eingetreten als Fähnrich
24.12.1914 ins Feld zur 8. / Fußartillerieregiment 1
08.09.1915 im Stab der II. / Fußartillerieregiment 1
10.12.1915 Bataillonsadjutant
20.01.1917 Batterieführer
01.12.1918 Bataillonsführer
01.04.1924 Chef der 6. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech)
01.05.1927 im Stab der II. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech) [laut Stellenbesetzung]
01.05.1928 Chef der 6. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech) [laut Stellenbesetzung]
01.05.1929 in der 6. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech) [laut Stellenbesetzung]
01.05.1930 Chef der 6. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech) [laut Stellenbesetzung]
01.05.1933 im Stab der 7. Division (München)
01.04.1934 Kommandeur der II. / Artillerieregiment 7 (Landsberg / Lech)
01.10.1934 Kommandeur der II. / Artillerieregiment 17 (Landsberg / Lech)
15.10.1935 Kommandeur der I. / Gebirgsartillerieregiment 69 (Landsberg / Lech)
06.10.1936 Kommandeur der I. / Gebirgsartillerieregiment 79 (Bad Reichenhall)
12.10.1937 Kommandeur des Gebirgsartillerieregiments 79 (Garmisch-Partenkirchen)
19.04.1940 Artilleriekommandeur 132
26.10.1941 zugleich mit der stellvertretenden Führung der 4. Gebirgsdivision beauftragt (bis 01.02.1942)
01.04.1942 Führerreserve OKH (XVIII)
15.07.1942 Kommandeur der 210. Infanteriedivision
16.02.1944 mit der stellvertretenden Führung der 12. Luftwaffenfelddivision beauftragt
24.03.1944 mit der Führung der 225. Infanteriedivision beauftragt
20.05.1944 Führereserve OKH (VII)
25.07.1944 Höherer Artilleriekommandeur 304

11.09.1941 Spange zum EK II
11.09.1941 Spange zum EK I
16.01.1942 Sturmabzeichen
06.08.1942 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold

Wintergerst was extradited to the Red Army from US PoW camp Pisek and disappeared afterwards. He did not make it into official Soviet PoW records which may indicate that he died or was killed soon after his handover. My notes give 20 May as the date on which he went missing, but I can't remember the source.
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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by graveland » 10 Sep 2017, 15:23

Thanks, askropp

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Königl. Bayerische Prinz Regent Luitpold-Jubiläums-Medaille am Bande der Jubiläumsmedaille der bayerischen Armee
EK I
Königl. Bayerischer Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit Schwertern und mit der Krone
Ritterkreuz des Kgl. Preußischen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern
Verwundetenabzeichen in mattweiß
Kommandeurkreuz des Königl. Ordens der Krone von Rumänien mit Schwertern

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by JakeV » 10 Sep 2017, 16:23

04.10.1914 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
08.05.1915 kgl. bayer. Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit Schwertern
29.01.1917 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
00.05.1918 Verwundetenabzeichen in weiß
27.07.1918 Ritterkreuz des kgl. Hausordens von Hohenzollern
kgl. bayer. Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern

In the lists of missing persons provided by the DRK, it is mentioned that he was still alive in 1949 and was a prisoner in Lubjanka prison in Moscow (see: http://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/index ... ntergerst/). Wheter the information of the DRK is accurate (this is not always the case), I cannot tell.
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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by askropp » 10 Sep 2017, 16:36

Hmm ... I would expect him in Bezborodova if he died in 1949 or later. But we are talking of Stalinist records, so they are not without doubt.
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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by graveland » 10 Sep 2017, 16:44

Thanks, Jake.

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 19 Feb 2022, 13:12

Rossano wrote:
16 May 2009, 12:32
Dieter Zinke wrote:Arko 132 was established 05.05.1940, maybe Wintergerst was in command from the beginning, but we have not yet a cofirmation by primary sources !

Dieter Z.
Is Keiligs Arko-List (as well as another mil. career for Wintergerst stating 25.4.40) not a primary source ? To me data is correct. Anyway I too expect any official document (from You or from Your friends) proving/confirming this. Rossano
Hi,

as per as PV 29.04.1940 the date of appointment to become Art. Kdr. 132 was 19.04.1940.

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (Heer)

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Post by Rossano » 19 Feb 2022, 15:43

Thanks

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Post by askropp » 17 Jan 2023, 17:01

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Post by graveland » 17 Jan 2023, 17:05

Danke, askropp.

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Post by Rossano » 17 Jan 2023, 20:23

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (1892-1945)

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Post by kstdk » 23 Apr 2023, 14:40

Hello

Karl Wintergerst, picture from BAMA/Invenio PERS 6/1003 and Generalskartei PERS 6/301364.

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Re: Generalleutnant Karl Wintergerst (1892-1945)

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Post by graveland » 02 Jul 2023, 19:38

Thank you, Kurt.

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