Generalleutnant Harry Hoppe (1894-1969)

[hughiec]

Hi - looking for some help.

In ABR Harry Hoppe's bio describes him as 'Chief of Operations (Ia) and Infantry-Readier with Investigation-Staff of Commander-in-Chief East', from December 1939 to October 1940. What exactly did that post involve?

Actually I believe Gerlach was the Ia of OB Ost during that time (until it was disbanded in July 1940) & ABR agrees. Was Hoppe Ia of a particular specialist staff ('Investigation Staff') under OB Ost?

Regards

Hughiec

[harmel]

Have info as Ia but I think he was actually an Infantry adviser with
this Command
Harmel

[Bernd R]

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[Rossano]

Have info as Ia but I think he was actually an Infantry adviser with
this Command
Harmel

according to Keilig : 19.12.39 Ia u. Inf.Berater d. Erk.St. Oberost
so, NOT Ia Ob.Ost BUT Ia + Inf. adv. of Erkundungsstab of Oberost.
Rossano Grandi

[askropp]

Infantry-Readier with Investigation-Staff of Commander-in-Chief East

I know there are a lot of bad translations on ABR, but this is beyond me ... I know that "readier" is the comparative degree to "ready" (i.e. readier = more ready), but does the noun "readier" even exist in the English language? Just another proof that the original terms are usually preferable (and I don't say this because I happen to be a native speaker).

[Dave Danner]

I cringe when I read the overly literal translations of German terms on that ABR website.

Wiktionary claims that the noun exists, but I could find only one example in a patent application where it referred apparently to a device which readied/prepared something. In any event, I don't know how "Berater" got translated that way. The translator must have misread it as "Bereiter".

[askropp]

The translator must have misread it as "Bereiter".

It seems just so, but the irony is, in a Wehrmacht context a "Bereiter" would be a military horse trainer!

[Requin Marteau]

Who did he write ?

 EK II (20 mars 1916),
 Braunschweigisches KVK 2. kl am Band für Kämpfer (1er septembre 1916),
 EK I (15 mars 1917),
 Ritterkreuz des Preussischen Hausorden von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern (17 avril 1918),
 Braunschweigisches KVK 1. kl (1er août 1918),
 Bewährungsabzeichen zum Braunschweigisches KVK 2. kl, ????
 Verwundeten Abzeichen in Silber,
 Bronzestatue für Sportliche Leistungen (10 juillet 1921),
 Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern (1er mars 1935),
 Österreichisches Ehrenmedaille des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern,
 Ungarisches Ehrenmedaille des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern,
 Wehrmacht Dienstauszeichnung für 18 Jahre (2 octobre 1936),
 Deutsches Schutzwall Ehrenzeichen,
 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK II (26 septembre 1939),
 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK I (12 juillet 1941),
 Infanterie Sturmabzeichen in Silber (31 août 1941),
 Ritterkreuz (12 septembre 1941),
 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold (18 mai 1942),
 Spanisches Kriegskreuz 1. kl (30 juin 1942),
 Ostmedaille (1er août 1942),
 Wehrmachtbericht (6 juillet 1944),
 Eichenlaub (18 décembre 1944)(682).

[Stauffenberg II]

Sportabz. = Sportabzeichen

[Shakar]

Hi, I've a note about Slowakisches Kriegssiegerkreuz ( III.Kl.), probably a photo evidence, does anyone have any info?

[Requin Marteau]

??? Where....

[Shakar]

??? Where....

In my list. . Slowakisches Kriegssiegerkreuz (Badge), so probably III.Kl.. Meaning I've seen it. Probably historicalwarmilitaria forum thread.

[Dave Danner]

Maybe an error for the Spanish Kriegskreuz (30.6.42)? Hoppe's IR 424 served alongside the Spanish Blue Division in the winter of 1941/42. I don't know of any service alongside the Slovaks.

Regarding the "Bewährungsabzeichen zum Braunschweigisches KVK 2.Kl.", it was likely awarded on the same day as the BrK1 (1.8.1918). When the BrK1 and the Bewährungsabzeichen for the BrK2 were established in 1918, it was customary for one to be nominated for both if one qualified. Hoppe had the EK1, so he qualified for the BrK1, and he was a native Braunschweiger with sufficient frontline service, so he qualified for the Bewährungsabzeichen. They would normally then be awarded on the same day.

[Shakar]

That was 1st thing that came on my mind, but that "badge" note I made convinced me. But I can't prove it cause historicalwarmilitaria is not working anymore and half of the pages of that thread is not even archived.

[graveland]

Hi, I've a note about Slowakisches Kriegssiegerkreuz ( III.Kl.), probably a photo evidence, does anyone have any info?

Maybe you confused Kübler (that he is wearing the Slowakisches Kriegssiegerkreuz 3. Klasse) with Hoppe in this photo.

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