Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

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Re: Everlasting Scars/Wounds Of Third Reich Personalities

Post by AlifRafikKhan » 03 Aug 2009 13:40

Oberstleutnant Erwin Koopmann (1900-1943)

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For a German, the badge of courage was the MENSUR fencing scar, a unique tradition of the German student duelling fraternities. The scar (the schmiss, or sometimes called the renommierschmiss; the bragging scar), mostly on the left side of the face, where blows would fall from a right-handed duellist. This was the high-class tattoo of the day borne by a generation of doctors, jurists, professors and officials, certifying the owner’s claim to manly stature and cultivated rank. The duelling scar was certain to attract the pretty girls because it signified virility and breeding...

Schmisse were the products of male vanity and were regarded as jewellery because they guaranteed the wearer an active love life for the rest of their days. Newly bandaged warriors were often seen in the gardens, cafes and theatres. There were stories that students would approach a doctor to acquire such a scar or alternatively they would resort to self-infliction with a straight-edged razor. To make it more pronounce, some would pull it apart, irritate it by pouring in wine or sew a horse hair into the gash...

Academic fencing or mensur fencing is neither a duel nor a sport. It is a traditional way of training and educating character and personality. In the mensur, the fencers are protected by a chain mail shirt and armoured leather gloves, padding on the throat and right arm, and steel goggles with a nose guard. They fence with sharp sabres at arm’s length and stand more or less in one place, while attempting to hit the unprotected areas of their opponent’s face and head. Flinching or dodging or recoil ever so slightly bring dishonour, only parrying is allowed; the goal being less to avoid injury than to endure it stoically. Once blood is drawn, the mensur is halted and the wound is inspected by a doctor. If the wound is less than one inch wide or one inch deep, the fight continues until such a wound is produced on one of the opponents...

Among German men it was believed that in order to be considered fit for good society, it was necessary to be capable of dispensing satisfaction in a duel. German men acquired both their duelling skill and their class-consciousness while attending university. These institutions had their fencing masters, and the elite sword duelling fraternities that were formed primed students for the social expectations that would await them on their graduation. After graduation, these students would enter the upper echelons of German society and assume positions of power and authority. The mensur functioned as an assertion of manhood and was a phenomenon specific to central Europe...

Erwin Koopmann took part in so many of those duels during his days at Marburg and Königsberg, that his left cheek and chin are scarred like a battlefield, showing at least 6 “schmisse”. One long scar near the left ear and another one above the upper lip have been airbrushed out on this studio portrait done around the year 1936...

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Post by Doktor Krollspell » 03 Aug 2009 14:51

Nicce photographs and documents on Erwin Koopmann! Would just like to add that he received the RK posthumously on 28.11.1943 as a Major commanding Gren.Rgt. 76. He had also receieved the DKiG on 19.01.1942 as an Oberleutnant commanding 2./Inf.Rgt. 90 as well as having receieved a Nennung im Ehernblatt des Heeres on 17.10.1943.

Errwin Koopmann was posthunously promoted to the rank of Oberstleutnant.


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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 04 Aug 2009 04:50

Thank you for the additional infos on Koopmann, Krollspell! :)

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 04 Aug 2009 05:00

Gauleiter Friedrich Rainer (1903-1947)...

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Hauptmann Kurt Schäfer, holder of Ritterkreuz and Nahkampfspange in Gold...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 06 Aug 2009 16:04

This Flak officer looks familiar...

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 06 Aug 2009 16:28

Generalleutnant Paul Klatt (1896-1973)

Served in the army since 1914, was a commander who led by example. Wounded three times in World War I (one of it made him treated in hospital for months, 18 May 1915-5 October 1915), he had been severely wounded in 24 December 1942 while commanding his regiment at the ferocious battle of Velikiy Luki. Another months of recuperation in hospital (24 December 1942-01 January 1943). This time it leaved marks on his face...


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Post by Robert t. » 09 Aug 2009 01:42

Excellent thread and research !!

Here's one more photo showing Erwin Koopmann's fencing scars.

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 10 Aug 2009 10:46

General der Infanterie Wilhelm 'Willi' Schneckenburger (1891-1944)...

Can someone confirm that it's scars on his left cheek?

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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 12 Aug 2009 04:57

Oberstleutnant der Reserve Georg-Wilhelm Schöning (1908-1987)

* 08.06.1908 in Gumbinnen an der Pissa / Ostpreußen.
+ 02.11.1987 in Bochum / Westfalen.

Promotions:
00.00.19__ Leutnant d. R.
00.00.19__ Oberleutnant d. R.
00.00.194_ Hauptmann d. R.
[21.01.1945] Major d. R.
00.00.1945 Oberstleutnant d. R.

Decorations & Awards:
21.01.1945 Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes (707.) as Major d. R. and Fhr. Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 66 / 13.Panzer-Division / IX.SS-Gebirgs-Korps / Heeresgruppe Süd, Budapest
07.02.1944 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as Major d. R. and Kdr. I.Bataillon / Füsilier-Regiment (mot.) “Feldherrnhalle” / 246.Infanterie-Division / VI.Armee-Korps / 3.Panzer-Armee / Heeresgruppe Mitte, Eastern Front
14.02.1942 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
16.10.1942 Ehrenblatt-Spange des Heeres
12.08.1941 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
11.07.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
00.00.194_ Nahkampfspange I. Stufe (Bronze)
00.00.194_ Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen
00.00.194_ Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939
00.00.1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
00.00.19__ Wehrmacht-Dienstauszeichnungen


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Post by tom_deba » 12 Aug 2009 11:18

Another one: Heinrich Reinefarth

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Post by division azul » 12 Aug 2009 12:47

looks like Georg-Wilhelm Schöning is not wearing all of his medals on the color picture
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Post by AlifRafikKhan » 13 Aug 2009 19:07

General der Artillerie Erich Marcks (1891-1944)

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Taking part in Operation Barbarossa, Marcks was seriously wounded in the Ukraine on June 26, 1941 as the commander of the 101st Light Infantry Division. This wounding resulted in the amputation of his left leg, then convalescent leave (until 25 March 1942). Subsequently, despite his disability, Marcks commanded the 337th Infantry Division in Paris, the LXVI Army Corps at Clermont-Ferrand, and the LXXXVII Army Corps in northern Brittany before his final assignment.

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Post by pavel michalek » 15 Aug 2009 10:37

Carl Friedrich von Pückler-Burghauss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Fried ... -Burghauss
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Heinz Lammerding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Lammerding

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